Mr. PAUL. Yes; in honor of the President being shot—he was heartbroken. Mr. HUBERT. I mean, why 3 nights instead of 2 or 4? Mr. PAUL. That’s what I told him. I said to him, “Are the other clubs going to close?” He said, “I don’t care about the other clubs.” Mr. HUBERT. Where was he calling you from, do you know? Mr. PAUL. I don’t know—he didn’t say where he was calling me from. He generally called me from a telephone booth or the club—not so much from his home. Mr. HUBERT. What would seem to be his condition when you were talking to him, emotionally and otherwise? Mr. PAUL. Very bad emotionally—he said, “I can’t believe it.” Mr. HUBERT. What was it based upon, do you know? Mr. PAUL. I don’t know—if you don’t see the person, you can’t tell the person on a telephone how he reacts or—— Mr. HUBERT. I mean, you have known him for a good many years. Mr. PAUL. Oh, yes; I’ve known Jack for so many years and he has always been that way, you know, reaction—fast—punch line—got to do this right away [indicating]. With him it wasn’t—he thought and did. It wasn’t a second thought. Mr. HUBERT. But you are quite clear that when he called you about 2 o’clock—— Mr. PAUL. That’s about a little after the time I got home—was a quarter to 3. Mr. HUBERT. And that’s the first time you had heard from him? Mr. PAUL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. The President was already dead? Mr. PAUL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. And it was known he was dead? Mr. PAUL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Did he say anything about Tippit? Mr. PAUL. No, sir; I didn’t know nothing about Tippit. I didn’t know nothing about Tippit. Mr. HUBERT. He didn’t tell you? Mr. PAUL. No; he didn’t tell me anything about Tippit. Mr. HUBERT. In any case, he said he had made up his mind he was going to close up the club for 3 days already? Mr. PAUL. Yes Mr. HUBERT. He didn’t ask you—he told you? Mr. PAUL. No; he told me. Mr. HUBERT. Did he mention he thought that the death of the President would hurt business in the Dallas area and therefore hurt his business? Mr. PAUL. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. He did not? Mr. PAUL. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. How long did that conversation last—about? Mr. PAUL. Three or 4 minutes—he says, “It’s a terrible, terrible thing.” Then, when I got back to the place in the evening he called me. Mr. HUBERT. That was about what time? Mr. PAUL. Well, I came back at 5 and I think he called me at 6. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know where he was then? Mr. PAUL. No, sir; he says, “It’s such a terrible thing that I’m going to go to synagogue.” He says, “Do you want to come along?” I says, “No; I don’t go to the synagogue, I’m not going to make a fool out of myself.” Mr. HUBERT. Did he go to the synagogue? Mr. PAUL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Did he go often? Mr. PAUL. For a year he went every—should I say—every day. Mr. HUBERT. That was after his father’s death? Mr. PAUL. That was after his father died—yes. Mr. HUBERT. That’s part of the Jewish religion that you should do that? Mr. PAUL. Yes; that’s true.