Mr. HUBERT. They are self-employed? Mr. PAUL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know a woman by the name of Bertha Cheek? Mr. PAUL. What is her name? Mr. HUBERT. Bertha Cheek. Mr. PAUL. It doesn’t even ring a bell. Mr. HUBERT. Did Ruby ever tell you that just towards the end, in a week or two prior to the death of Oswald, that he was trying to borrow some money from her, and get her interested in opening a new cabaret? Mr. PAUL. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Or doing something to the Carousel? Mr. PAUL. No, sir; that name don’t even ring a bell to me. Mr. HUBERT. You don’t know her at all and he never mentioned her? Mr. PAUL. Never. Mr. HUBERT. Nor did he mention that he was trying to raise any money? Mr. PAUL. No. Mr. HUBERT. I think perhaps you would be in as good a position as anybody else to tell us some things about Jack’s personal life. As you may know, there have been some rumors at least, that maybe Jack was a homosexual? Mr. PAUL. Oh, no—there was rumors? Mr. HUBERT. Yes, you have heard the rumors? Mr. PAUL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. We would like your opinion on that subject. Mr. PAUL. Oh, no—no, sir. Mr. HUBERT. You knew the man a long time? Mr. PAUL. A long time. Mr. HUBERT. It is your opinion he was not a homosexual? Mr. PAUL. Positively. Mr. HUBERT. What was his relationship with women generally; do you know? Mr. PAUL. Well, he liked women. Mr. HUBERT. Did he have affairs with them? Mr. PAUL. Yes—just different times, different women all the time. Mr. HUBERT. Was he ever particularly attached to one? Mr. PAUL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Who was that? Mr. PAUL. Let me remember that name again—mention some names, I can’t think of the name. Mr. HUBERT. Alice Nichols? Mr. PAUL. Alice Nichols—yes, I think they were going around together for about 10 or 11 years. I used to go out with them too. Mr. HUBERT. What was his relationship to the girls who used to work in his place, was it strictly a business relationship? Mr. PAUL. With the girls—strictly business. He would like to make a girl that would come up there, but not the girls that was working for him. Mr. HUBERT. You mean he wouldn’t try to date the strippers or waitresses? Mr. PAUL. No—we used to take them out for coffee after they got through, but that’s all. Mr. HUBERT. I would like to show you a picture, or rather several pictures which have already been identified, and I’m not going to give them a new identification number. I’m going to show you a group of five pictures, exact copies of which have already been identified in connection with the deposition of Andrew Armstrong, as Exhibits 5300 A through F and ask you if it is not so that Jack Ruby appears in each one of those pictures? Mr. PAUL. Right. Mr. HUBERT. Now, there are two girls in there? Mr. PAUL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. One has blonde hair and is wearing dark clothes and the other is—has darker hair and is wearing a striped dress. Mr. PAUL. Yes.