Mr. SENATOR. Just in my young teens. Mr. HUBERT. Until you were how old? Mr. SENATOR. Possibly about 18, to the best of my knowledge. Mr. HUBERT. You were living with your sister as you said? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Now, at age 18, did your life take a change by way of occupation and residence? Mr. SENATOR. Well, I got sick a couple of times so every time I got sick I went home to mother. I went back home. Of course, the distance, was about 190 miles from my home town to New York City. At one time I had pleurisy, went back home and stayed a year. Another time I had peritonitis. I went back home again. Mr. HUBERT. This was after age 18 or before? Mr. SENATOR. No; this is now after 18. Mr. HUBERT. Then I take it that after age 18 and for a period of 1 or 2 years you were not working because of illness and you were staying mostly with your mother at home? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; well, my brother had a restaurant, or rather, still does. He has a restaurant. I used to help him up there. Mr. HUBERT. Where? What place was that? Mr. SENATOR. Gloversville, N.Y. He had a restaurant by his name, by his last name. Mr. HUBERT. How long did you work with him? Mr. SENATOR. On and off, this is a rough guess, it has been so many years. I would probably say maybe a couple of years, something like that. Mr. HUBERT. At which time you lived with your mother? Mr. SENATOR. Yes, I lived home. Mr. HUBERT. Would that take us then in your life to about age 22? Mr. SENATOR. I would say around there, yes. Mr. HUBERT. Then what happened after those days of your life? Mr. SENATOR. Then I went back. I can’t quote you the exact years, but I went back to New York. Mr. HUBERT. City, you mean? Mr. SENATOR. New York City, and I went to work for a—I was jerking sodas in the early thirties. That is when I was in my twenties yet then. Mr. HUBERT. Where did you live during that period? Mr. SENATOR. I was still home with my sister. I went back. I shuttled either from my sister to my mother. Mr. HUBERT. You did not have any residence of your own? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. HUBERT. Where did she live during that period? Mr. SENATOR. My sister? She lived in the Bronx, still does. Mr. HUBERT. I mean the same address? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember the address, or were there several? I am talking now about this other period, you see, that is to say when you—— Mr. SENATOR. I can think of the streets but I probably could not think of the numbers. Mr. HUBERT. Well, that is all right. Give us the streets. Mr. SENATOR. All right. When I originally came to New York it was on Davidson Avenue in the Bronx. Mr. HUBERT. That would have been when you were about 12 years old? Mr. SENATOR. No, no. I first came to New York when I was 15. Mr. HUBERT. Where did she live then?