Mr. HUBERT. But it was different from anything you had ever seen on Jack Ruby before? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. And it was noticeably so? Mr. SENATOR. Oh yes. Mr. HUBERT. Did you notice it? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I could notice it. Mr. HUBERT. Did it disturb you any? Mr. SENATOR. I wouldn’t say exactly I was disturbed, but I could notice it. Mr. HUBERT. Did he seem to be concerned about the President’s death or the ad or what? Mr. SENATOR. To me, I would probably say it must have been a combination of the entire thing. I know he was deeply hurt about the President, terribly. Mr. HUBERT. You say you know that. How do you know that? Mr. SENATOR. What? By his feelings; by the way he talked about the family and the children; by tears in his eyes, which I have seen, and I am not the only one who has seen it. Mr. HUBERT. Do you think that he was more disturbed than the average person that you know was disturbed about the President’s death? Mr. SENATOR. All I know, while I can’t say about the average because all I know, he was really deeply disturbed, but I can’t describe an average because there might be another individual of his nature, too, who knows. Who knows the affections of each and every individual? Mr. HUBERT. In any case his reaction was such—— Mr. SENATOR. It was pretty well—you know, disturbed as I was and as disturbed as I have seen many friends of mine, it was worse with him than it was with the others who I have seen. Mr. HUBERT. That is exactly what I was getting at. So he got hold of this newspaper ad and read it again—is that it—that is, in the coffeeshop? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; he looked it over again. Mr. HUBERT. What comment did he make, while reading it or after? Mr. SENATOR. While reading it? Mr. HUBERT. I don’t mean his words, you understand, his exact words, but the meaning, the thoughts expressed. Mr. SENATOR. Yes; the thoughts. He can’t understand it. It is so penetrated in his mind he can’t understand why somebody would want to do something like this. Mr. HUBERT. The ad had nothing to do with killing the President? Mr. SENATOR. No; but he couldn’t understand why an ad like this should break out, about this ad. Another thing he couldn’t understand why in the world would they want to impeach Justice Earl Warren. Incidentally, that sign come out of Massachusetts, that billboard. Mr. HUBERT. Was it your impression that Ruby was putting the three instances together as being connected in some way; to wit: the death of the President, the impeach Earl Warren sign, and the Weissman ad? Was he seeming to do that? Mr. SENATOR. He was seeming to do at that time—he was seeming to do with the impeachment of Earl Warren, and the Weissman sign; he couldn’t understand why these things were of a nature—I don’t know how long this billboard has been out. I don’t know if it has been a day, two, or what it was, and then the ad break out the same day that President Kennedy was coming in. He wanted to know the whys.