Mr. HUBERT. And you also say that he paced up and down for some little interval of time. Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. So when you characterize it as a wild guess—— Mr. SENATOR. I have got to guess. Mr. HUBERT. I wonder if it is a guess so much as it is a putting together of these little segments of time and estimating what each would take. Mr. SENATOR. I am saying I would have to guess. I would have to guess all this. Mr. HUBERT. When you said three quarters of an hour, wasn’t it really the result of your thinking of how much time would be occupied to do these little segments of activity such as dressing and pacing up and down and so forth, and you added them up and came to about three quarters of an hour; wasn’t that your mental processes rather than a wild guess? Mr. SENATOR. No, no, no. You asked me a question and I said I would have to guess it. You know it is really amazing to put hours together. Mind you, 5 months have elapsed already, and to try to put these hours together you have got to fluctuate. How can you be sure? Mr. HUBERT. That is true, but—— Mr. SENATOR. You have got to fluctuate. It is strictly all guess work. Mr. HUBERT. That is true, but your attention was directed specifically to these time lapses, not 5 months ago, but on that very day. Mr. SENATOR. They were all guess work, they were all supposedly. I had to give guess works. Mr. HUBERT. What you are saying now is that the times that you estimated then were guess works even on that very day as to the times on that very day? You were examined, weren’t you? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. About 3, 4, or 5 o’clock in the evening? Mr. SENATOR. And I have always said I would have to guess the time. Mr. HUBERT. Even as to that day you would have to guess the time? Mr. SENATOR. That Sunday? Mr. HUBERT. Yes. Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I always have to guess. Mr. HUBERT. On Sunday you said you had to guess the time as to the earlier part of the day? Mr. SENATOR. I had to guess the time Saturday, I had to guess the time Sunday when he woke me up. I was only guessing it was around 3 o’clock in the morning. Mr. HUBERT. You see the reason why I am bringing that to your attention is that you stated a moment ago that it is difficult for you to recall these things after 5 months. But I was inviting your attention to the fact that your memory had been directed to these intervals of time for the first time not today, but on that very day, and your answer to me is that even on that day you were guessing as to the intervals of the earlier part of the day; is that correct? Mr. SENATOR. Of times? Mr. HUBERT. Yes. Mr. SENATOR. Of times. Mr. HUBERT. Is that a fair statement? Mr. SENATOR. If a man doesn’t see a clock, or doesn’t see a watch, what else can he do? What else can you go by?