Mr. SENATOR. So I went in there. I sat down there. Now, this is the place that I go every morning, you know, rather Sunday or Monday because I don’t like to sit indoors. So I went there and had a cup of coffee. Then the first thing—then I had another cup of coffee. Now, on my second cup of coffee I heard the girl, the waitress—now where she got her information from I don’t know. It had to be either telephone or radio, I don’t know which. Maybe they had the radio on. Mr. HUBERT. Did you notice any kind of a radio of any type in the restaurant? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. HUBERT. Did they usually have any? Mr. SENATOR. Not to my knowledge. Mr. HUBERT. All right, what happened? Mr. SENATOR. Not to my knowledge. The first time she said she heard that somebody shot Oswald. Mr. HUBERT. Was she speaking to you? Mr. SENATOR. No, no, it was loud; but it happened to be she was near me. Mr. HUBERT. There were other people in the place? Mr. SENATOR. Not a lot. There were others you know, the usual morning Sunday business in the restaurant is sort of minute. So what I did when I heard that, I called up the lawyer. I was going to give him the news. I figured he would probably be sitting home, you know, Jim Martin, who happens to be a friend of mine. But when I called him. I spoke to his daughter and she told me her dad and mother were in church. Dad would be home in half an hour. I said all right, maybe I’ll call him back. A short while later, the same girl, the same waitress hollered out that the man—she wasn’t pronouncing the name right, the Carousel Club, but I sort of got the drift of the name and she hollered Jack Ruby killed Oswald. This is what she come up with later. Mr. HUBERT. How much later? Mr. SENATOR. I would probably say about 5 minutes. Mr. HUBERT. But it was after you had called Martin? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; after I called Martin. Mr. HUBERT. You called Martin right away? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I was going to tell him that. I didn’t think he would be—of course, I didn’t know he was going to church or anything. Mr. HUBERT. He is a close friend of yours? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. He is an attorney there; yes. Mr. HUBERT. All right, then? Mr. SENATOR. Then when I heard that again, then I went up to see him. Of course, I froze in that chair there. I said my God, I didn’t know what in the world to think. Then I went up there and I no sooner got there, he had just got there, I don’t know, I think a moment or two before me. His wife and daughter had just come out of church. Mr. HUBERT. You went to his home, you mean? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I went to his house. I told Jim and he said, “I heard already. I saw it on TV.” Mr. HUBERT. He was already at his house, you said? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; he was home already. Mr. HUBERT. How long after your phone call to him do you suppose you got to his house? Mr. SENATOR. Well, he lived quite a ways. I would probably say it was about a 20-minute ride.