Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever hear Ruby or anybody indicate that Officer Tippit was ever in the Carousel Club? Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t remember of hearing any indication. Mr. GRIFFIN. How about that Bernard Weissman? Was he in the Carousel Club? Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t remember any indication of that, either. Mr. GRIFFIN. Have you ever owned a gun? Mr. CRAFARD. I had a pistol, but it was in Oregon when I was in Texas. Mr. GRIFFIN. What kind of a pistol was that? Mr. CRAFARD. A .22. Mr. GRIFFIN. Have you ever owned any other sort of a gun? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. When you were in military service, did you have any training with a rifle? Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; I had training with the M-1 rifle and with the M-1 carbine. Mr. GRIFFIN. When you were in Dallas, Tex., did you ever have any occasion to go out to any rifle ranges? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you know whether Jack Ruby ever went to any rifle ranges? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Your answer is you don’t know? Mr. CRAFARD. I did not know. Mr. GRIFFIN. While you were in Dallas, Tex., did you attempt to purchase an automobile? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you visit any used car lots? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever drive Jack Ruby’s car? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you drive an automobile at any time while you were in Dallas? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever accompany anybody in an automobile to have it repaired? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, I believe when you talked with the FBI, you indicated that you visited a store with Jack where he was going to get some electrical or electronic equipment. Mr. CRAFARD. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. How soon was that after you began to work for Jack? Mr. CRAFARD. I think it was about 3 or 4 weeks after I went to work for Jack. Mr. GRIFFIN. When you talk about working for Jack, do you mean that to include the time that you were working at the Dallas, Tex., State Fair? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. As working for Jack? Mr. CRAFARD. Only the time, from the time the State fair closed. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall what kind of electrical equipment Jack was purchasing, looking for when you went with him? Mr. CRAFARD. Some speakers and—that is the boxes that are used to work a speaker out of, the amplifier box. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where was he going to use these items? Mr. CRAFARD. In the Carousel Club. Mr. GRIFFIN. Had he had those items there before? Mr. CRAFARD. He had the items in the Carousel Club, but he was going to replace them with some better models. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were his existing models defective in any way? Mr. CRAFARD. There was always something going wrong with one speaker or the other. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he actually replace these? Mr. CRAFARD. Not while I was there; no. Mr. GRIFFIN. What happened at the electronics store that you visited? Mr. CRAFARD. He talked with the gentleman for a few minutes and I believe he give them a free pass to the Carousel Club.