Mr. CRAFARD. I believe that was about a week and a half before the assassination of President Kennedy. Mr. GRIFFIN. What makes you remember that episode? Mr. CRAFARD. I was trying to remember as much as I can about it, and I remember taking the revolver to him helped me remember the fact that he had it on one occasion with him in the club before. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was there anything that he did or said which gave you any indication of why he had the revolver with him in the club? Mr. CRAFARD. No; I believe he had money in the same sack with the revolver, and he just brought it in all together. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he have a safe in the club at that time? Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; but he didn’t use it very often. I believe he had it. I believe he had it at that time; yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. You testified before that it was Jack’s practice either at the end of every business day or the next day to pick the money up and take it away from the club. Mr. CRAFARD. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. On how many occasions would you say you were present when Jack, when you saw Jack take money away from the club? Mr. CRAFARD. I would say almost every time that he took money from the club I was present. Mr. GRIFFIN. And on any of these occasions other than the one you have just described, do you recall his having a gun on his person? Mr. CRAFARD. Not that I can recall. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever see him take the money and actually put it in his car? Mr. CRAFARD. On several occasions, yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where would he put the money in his car? Mr. CRAFARD. In the trunk. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you in a position where you could observe him put the money into the trunk? Mr. CRAFARD. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you observe him take anything out of the trunk on those occasions? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you in a position so you could have seen him if he took a gun out of the trunk and carried it with him? Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; I was usually right beside him placing something in the car, myself. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you then on these occasions accompany Jack any place? Mr. CRAFARD. Once or twice, but usually just put stuff in the car for him and went back upstairs. Mr. GRIFFIN. And when you would leave Jack on any of these occasions, did he have other people with him, who drove off with him? Mr. CRAFARD. One or two times; yes. A couple of times he had Mr. Ralph Paul with him. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, how many occasions would you say you went down with him to the car when he carried money down, put the money in the trunk, and Jack drove off then alone? Mr. CRAFARD. I would say most of the time when I went down with him he drove off alone. Mr. GRIFFIN. Can you give us what your best estimate is of the number of times this would have been when he drove off alone? Mr. CRAFARD. I would say about eight or nine times that I am definite. Mr. GRIFFIN. How many times a day did you have occasion to go into the trunk of Jack’s automobile?