Warren Commission (15 of 26): Hearings Vol. XV (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (15 of 26): Hearings Vol. XV (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. KANTOR. As a matter of fact, I didn’t give it much thought, or any
thought, perhaps, again, concrete thought at least, until the following
night, Saturday night, when things quieted down enough so that I could
take a walk in downtown Dallas, somewhere around 10 o’clock in the
evening. And I passed by Ruby’s place, the Carousel, and saw a sign
on the door stating that it was closed. And I recalled this weird
conversation I had had with him at the hospital.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now----
Mr. KANTOR. Excuse me--because a man named Barney Weinstein, who
operates a strip joint a couple of doors away, had his place open.
Mr. GRIFFIN. When did you first think about this again after Saturday?
Mr. KANTOR. Well, I understood later on that Jack Ruby had been in
the assembly room in the basement of the Dallas Police Station after
midnight on Friday going into Saturday. I didn’t see him at that time.
I was in that room. It was a very crowded room. But I thought about
our conversation on Saturday when I passed by his place. And earlier
Saturday evening I thought of Jack Ruby because meat sandwiches, beef
sandwiches, I believe they were, had shown up in the pressroom of the
Dallas Police Station, and I heard someone remark that Jack Ruby had
brought them in. I didn’t see him then, either.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You heard this while you were at the police station?
Mr. KANTOR. Yes; Well, I was going in the room to get a sandwich, and
they were gone, they were gone very rapidly. I heard someone either
specifically say it to me or I heard someone specifically saying to
someone else that Jack Ruby was the person that brought these in.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Was that Friday afternoon or late Friday evening, or in
the middle of Friday?
Mr. KANTOR. I am not sure now. It seems to me that it was Saturday. It
seems to me that it was Saturday, late afternoon.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, when, after you walked down Commerce Street on
Saturday night did you next think about your encounter with Ruby at
Parkland Hospital?
Mr. KANTOR. Well, having walked past his place, and having seen that it
was closed, I don’t know whether I gave it any more thought.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I mean after that, when was the next time you thought
about it?
Mr. KANTOR. The next time was just moments after 11:21 a.m., Sunday
morning, when I discovered that Jack Ruby had shot Oswald.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, what did you do immediately after Ruby shot Oswald?
Mr. KANTOR. Well, to begin with, I didn’t see anything more than a
hand and a gun as the shooting occurred. I was very close to where Lee
Harvey Oswald was walking. I was intently watching his face and was in
hopes I could ask him a question as he approached.
Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Let me ask you to do this. We have a diagram
here of the jail basement. You might take a look at it. I am going to
mark on the diagram “Seth Kantor Deposition, June 2, 1964, Exhibit No.
2.”
(The document referred to was marked Seth Kantor, Exhibit No. 2, June
2, 1964, for identification.)
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