Mr. HUBERT. However, under those circumstances as you have described, he would still be in the custody of the jailer, and therefore there would be no occasion to have a Tempo? Chief CURRY. Right. Mr. HUBERT. Would that be true also when the identification bureau people took fingernail scrapings and hair specimens? Chief CURRY. True. It would not be necessary to get a Tempo. Mr. HUBERT. He would still be in the custody of the jail people and no Tempo would be necessary? Chief CURRY. Right. Mr. HUBERT. Also if Oswald made any telephone calls, would there be occasion for a Tempo on that? Chief CURRY. No. Mr. HUBERT. That is because the phone is in the jail area and no necessity for a Tempo? Chief CURRY. That’s right. On his arrest card there would be a record kept of any phone calls that were made. It would be entered on the card, the fact that he did go in to use the phone, and it usually shows on the card whether or not contact was made. Mr. HUBERT. That card would also show any visits? Chief CURRY. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Now if he were taken to a lineup or showup, would a Tempo be made there? Chief CURRY. No, sir; because let me put it this way. If he was brought from the jail to go to the showup, a Tempo would be probably issued then. Mr. HUBERT. If custody were transferred? Chief CURRY. Pardon me, let me restate this. In a general showup, the bureau that wants a person shown up notifies the jail personnel. The jail personnel gets the people together, the wanted person and two or three others similarly dressed, or people of the same nature and general build and so forth, out of the jail and takes them to the showup and then returns them to the jail. All this time they are in the custody of the jail personnel, so it would not be necessary to make out a Tempo on it. Now at other times the prisoner could be in custody of a certain bureau and they could decide to show him up and they could have some detectives stand in with him, and there would be no need for the jail personnel to handle it at all on this basis, nor would it be necessary to get a Tempo, because he would already be out on a Tempo. Mr. HUBERT. Do you recall at any time that you told the news media that the basement route would be used specifically? Chief CURRY. Not specifically. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember that, I think it was late on the night of the 22d or early on the morning of the 23d, there was a conversation with the press and yourself and the district attorney and Oswald in the assembly room?