Mr. COX. Yes; I will explain it to you. I was talking to a reserve captain in the basement. Let me think of his name. Captain Kris, I believe. We were talking about the thing happening, and also what people had said, and this news reporter went from there. In other words, that is the way he got it. Mr. HUBERT. Did you talk to this man, Joe Sherman? Mr. COX. Yes. He came into the conversation. Asked me if I knew Jack Ruby, and I said I once worked for him at that night club, the Vegas Club, and that is how that thing got in the paper. As far as me saying he had been in the basement, or how he had been in there, that was just strictly his say. Mr. HUBERT. For the record so we get it straight, let me read to you what he said, and then I am going to ask you if that is the truth or not. Police Sgt. R. A. Cox said he once worked for Jack Ruby as a special officer in the night club he once operated on Oak Lawn. He said that Ruby had a camera with him or when he entered the basement in the Dallas police station Sunday morning. Did you tell that to Joe Sherman? Mr. COX. No. Mr. HUBERT. Now I think you were about to explain. Mr. COX. I told Kris somebody said “he even had a camera.” That is how that happened. I didn’t say that he had one. I said “someone said he had one.” Mr. HUBERT. Now at what time did this conversation with Kris occur which was overheard by Mr. Sherman? Mr. COX. Well, it was after I came in out of the street. Mr. HUBERT. I think you said you came in out of the street about 20 minutes after? Mr. COX. About 20 minutes after; that’s right. Mr. HUBERT. You were standing where? Mr. COX. In the basement. In fact, in that hall where it goes into the---- Mr. HUBERT. So that your point is, you did not say this to Kris, but this reporter just picked it up? Mr. COX. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. The police reporter just heard you saying something about a camera, but did not hear you say that the people or somebody was saying that he had a camera? Mr. COX. That’s right. Mr. HUBERT. You had heard some people say he had a camera? Mr. COX. Said he came in with the newsman. Mr. HUBERT. Who did you hear that from? Mr. COX. Just conversation. There was a lot of talk after that happened. Mr. HUBERT. You don’t recall any particular person that you got that from? Mr. COX. No; sure don’t. I told Captain Solomon about it after it happened, after that statement came out. I told him it wasn’t true, right away. Mr. HUBERT. When did you first learn that it was Ruby involved? Mr. COX. When I was in the street. It was on the radio. I was still in the street when it came over the radio that someone had shot him, and then when I walked down into the basement after I left the street, someone said that Jack Ruby had shot Oswald. That is when I first knew it. Mr. HUBERT. When did you first hear anything about a camera. Mr. COX. In the basement. There were a lot of people gathered talking, a lot of officers. You know what I mean.