Mr. GOIN. Well, if I followed it to the office, it must have been in front, though I can’t remember distinctly that part of it. Mr. HUBERT. Did Mr. Dietrich ever leave the smaller truck that you were in with him? Mr. GOIN. I believe he walked down beside the truck with me. Mr. HUBERT. But no more than that? Mr. GOIN. No; not that I recall. Mr. HUBERT. Do you recall Mr. Fleming coming out and giving you instructions at any time as to what to do? Mr. GOIN. No; I don’t. Mr. HUBERT. Do you recall Mr. Hall doing so? Mr. GOIN. Mr. Hall? Mr. HUBERT. Yes. Mr. GOIN. It seems, I believe, Mr. Hall come out and spoke at one time. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember what he said to you? Mr. GOIN. No. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember what instructions you had as to what to do? Mr. GOIN. I was in question as to what would actually take place most of the time, as I recall. Mr. HUBERT. You what? Mr. GOIN. I was more or less uninformed as to what to do and was waiting instructions. Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever receive them? Mr. GOIN. No. The commotion began. Mr. HUBERT. Prior to the beginning of the commotion, did you get any instructions as to what to do? Mr. GOIN. I believe we talked. Mr. Hall had said something about traveling down Main Street, and I do not remember if we had agreed that there would be some other men probably want to ride in our truck, security men. I don’t remember if that was discussed with some of the officers there, or with just Mr. Dietrich and myself. Mr. HUBERT. Did you know Jack Ruby? Mr. GOIN. No. Mr. HUBERT. Have you seen pictures of him in the press or on TV or anything of that sort since? Mr. GOIN. Yes; I have seen pictures in the paper. Mr. HUBERT. Did you see anybody around there that day that either was Ruby or looked like him? Mr. GOIN. At that time, I certainly didn’t know him. Mr. HUBERT. But now that you do know what he looks like, can you tell us whether or not you saw anybody? Mr. GOIN. I am sorry, I wouldn’t know him if I were to see him. Mr. HUBERT. Now there was no conversation between us this afternoon? I mean tonight, other than what has been recorded by the stenographer, isn’t that correct? Mr. GOIN. That’s right. Mr. HUBERT. Thank you, Mr. Goin. I appreciate your coming down. Mr. GOIN. Yes. TESTIMONY OF MARVIN E. HALL The testimony of Marvin E. Hall was taken at 3:10 p.m., on July 13, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President’s Commission. Sam Kelley, assistant attorney general of Texas, was present. Mr. HUBERT. This is the deposition of Mr. Marvin E. Hall. Mr. Hall, my name is Leon D. Hubert. I am a member of the advisory staff of the general counsel of the President’s Commission.