Mrs. RICHEY. I didn’t pay particular attention, but I mean to me it seems like that this wasn’t any change at all. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall any arguments or differences of opinion that he had with any of his MC’s, masters of ceremony? Mrs. RICHEY. Wally Weston. Mr. GRIFFIN. What was that? Mrs. RICHEY. I don’t know what it was. I just remember that Wally was a good MC. I mean he was the best that they had ever had, and something happened and I don’t know what it was, but Wally either quit or got fired, and I was there the night that he quit, but they were hollering, and when Jack hollers you don’t understand what he is saying because he has got a little bit of an accent and it kind of goes, you know, all together. To me he has an accent. To somebody else he might not. Mr. GRIFFIN. When did this occur? Mrs. RICHEY. You ask dates and I can’t tell you dates. Mr. GRIFFIN. About how long before the President was shot? Mrs. RICHEY. I don’t know. I don’t have any idea. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was it as much as 3 months? Mrs. RICHEY. I can tell you the MC’s we had after him. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right, who were the MC’s? Mrs. RICHEY. Sal Vincent. Remember the guy that sang---- Mr. GRIFFIN. Was that Johnny Turner? Mrs. RICHEY. I believe it was. Yes; he is the one that had it, what do you call it, dummies, ventriloquist. There was one that was there--now, that was after. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Bill DeMar come in? Do you remember Bill DeMar? Mrs. RICHEY. Yes; he was there before. Yes; Bill DeMar, but he was there before and after. I mean he was there when this happened. Was Sal there before? Come to think of it---- Mr. GRIFFIN. The short fat man you are talking about? Mrs. RICHEY. The one with the toupee, the stupid man. He wasn’t there before? Oh, I thought he was. He knows about as much as I do. Mr. GRIFFIN. Anyhow---- Mrs. RICHEY. I don’t remember the date though. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Wally Weston leave as a result of this argument? Mrs. RICHEY. I don’t know if it was this argument. Maybe it was because he wouldn’t let Shari, his wife, come back. She was a dancer there. Shari Angel. I don’t know, it seems like that was why they were arguing, because he wouldn’t let Shari come back, but I am not even real sure about that, but I remember that was an argument between them. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Jack ever express in your presence any opinions about Earl Norman? Mrs. RICHEY. No. Earl worked there one week, but he never said anything to me about Earl. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever see anybody at the Carousel Club who in any way resembled Lee Oswald? Mrs. RICHEY. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. I haven’t got any further questions at this point, so if there is anything that you would like to tell us, is there anything that I haven’t covered that you think we should know about? Mrs. RICHEY. No, you have covered about all of it. I am afraid I haven’t been much help because I have tried to put this out of my mind. I want to try to forget it.