Mr. GRIFFIN. How about George Senator? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Never heard the name. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you have anything to do with raising money for the defense? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Tell us what you had to do with that. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Here is a copy of, almost like this that we placed in certain newspapers. Mr. GRIFFIN. I will simply read this into the record. You have handed me a sheet of paper on which is printed in capital letters on the first line, “Appeal for Fair Play.” And on the second line “Save Jack Ruby” with three exclamation marks after it. Then in lowercase letters with the initial capitals “Funds for his Defense Needed” on one line. “Send your Contributions to:” on the next line, and then in all caps under that “Jack Ruby Defense Fund Committee,” then with initial caps and lowercase letters “P.O. Box 5226, Chicago 80, Illinois.” Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Right. Mr. GRIFFIN. That is an advertisement you say you ran? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. They ran it in several newspapers. One was the New York Times, I believe. It was rather unsuccessful, rather unsuccessful. But here is one we sent out 2,000 letters and we lost $200 out of it. We got $5 back. Mr. GRIFFIN. This is a copy of a letter on the stationery headed “Jack Ruby Appeal Committee”. Now, do you want this stationery? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. You can have it. Just keep it. Keep this, too, so you will have it for your records. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Let me mark the “Appeal for Fair Play” advertisement as “Washington, D.C., deposition of Hyman Rubenstein, June 5, 1964, Exhibit No. 1,” and let me ask you if you will sign it. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Down here? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. All right. (Hyman Rubenstein Exhibit No. 1 was marked for identification.) Mr. GRIFFIN. And the next piece of paper, the letter on Jack Ruby Appeal Committee stationery I am going to mark “Washington, D.C., deposition of Hyman Rubenstein, June 5, 1964, Exhibit No. 2,” and ask you if you will sign this also. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Sure. I have got “Hy Rubenstein.” Mr. GRIFFIN. That is all right. (Hyman Rubenstein Exhibit No. 2 was marked for identification.) Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, Exhibit No. 2 is a letter addressed to “Dear Friend” dated April 30, 1964, and signed by Michael Levin, Chairman of the Jack Ruby Appeal Committee. Members of the committee listed on the left-hand side are Michael Levin, Chairman, Marty Eritt, Blanca Fortgang, Elmer Gertz, Ann Osborne, Barney Ross. Who is Blanca Fortgang? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I don’t know, probably a friend of Mike Levin. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who is Elmer Gertz? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Also the fellow who got the letter up and the ad up, a friend of Mike Levin. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who is Ann Osborne? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I don’t know who she is. I think she is the one who got the letter out and got the list of names that was submitted to Mike Levin, the 2,000 names that cost us $200. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now were Fortgang, Gertz, and Osborne friends of your brother, did they know Jack?