Warren Commission (15 of 26): Hearings Vol. XV (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (15 of 26): Hearings Vol. XV (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. HALL. Yes, sir; and I stayed with the other officers and we were
back. I knew Mr. Howard personally, I knew who he was, but whether Jack
Ruby did or not, I do not know.
Mr. HUBERT. And that was, as I understand it, between 1:58 and 2:02?
Mr. HALL. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Or just about 6 minutes?
Mr. HALL. Four minutes.
Mr. HUBERT. Four minutes--and then he was brought back up?
Mr. HALL. The jail doctor, Dr. Fred A. Bieberdorf, was in the jail
area and had apparently been there on other business, and one of the
officers, I don’t recall whether it was McMillon or Clardy, asked the
doctor to look at Jack Ruby while he was there.
Mr. HUBERT. And when was that finished?
Mr. HALL. We returned to the floor above there, the fifth floor, and
they--the police officers removed the clothing that had been given Jack
and he was returned back to where he was wearing his shorts. Then, I
started interviewing him again.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, this has been clarified to some extent already, but I
would like to clarify it a bit further. Prior to doing so, let me mark
the documents--I’m going to refer to for identification. I have marked
the document which purports to be a report of an interview by you,
Mr. Hall, of Jack Ruby taken on November 24, 1963, appearing in the
Clements’ report of November 30, 1963, at pages 160, 161, 162, and 163.
We are identifying that document on the first page as follows: I have
written into the right-hand margin the words, “Dallas, Texas, May 28,
1964, Exhibit No. 1 of the deposition of C. Ray Hall,” and I have
signed it “Leon D. Hubert, Jr.,” and I have marked the next page of
that document, being page 161, with my initials in the lower right-hand
corner and the same with pages 162 and 163.
The other document also purports to be a report of an interview by
you of Jack Ruby, dated, on the face of it. November 25, 1963. I have
marked that document on the first page with the following: “Dallas,
Texas, May 28, 1964, Exhibit No. 2 of the deposition of C. Ray Hall,
Leon D. Hubert.” This document with the successive pages also appears
in the Clements’ report of November 30, 1963, pages 13, 14, 15, 16,
17, and 18, and as to each of those pages, I have identified them for
the purpose of this deposition by marking my initials in the lower
right-hand corner.
Now, there has already been clarification, as you know, concerning
the date on this Exhibit No. 2, that this was really an interview of
November 24 rather than November 25.
Mr. HALL. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. That is to say, they are both November 24?
Mr. HALL. Yes; that was a typographical error.
Mr. HUBERT. Yes; that was a typographical error and that has been
clarified.
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