"Ah!" she replied, "it's easy to go scat when you've not got love of the Lard in your heart. I be gone sixty years of age, and many as I can mind back-along as have trodden the path of sorrow. There be a brae lot o' fools about." The workman winked at Gortre with huge enjoyment, and settled himself comfortably in his place. "Then you don't hold with Disestablishing the Church, Mother?" he said. "I do take no stock in Church," she replied, "begging the gentleman's pardon"--this to Gortre. "I was born and bred a Wesleyan and such I'm like to die. How should I know what they'll be doing up to London church town? This here is my first visit to England to see my daughter, and it'll be the last I've a mind to take. You should come to Cornwall, my dear, and then you'll see if religion's over and done away with." "But you've heard of all as they've just found out at Jerusalem, surely? It's known now that Christ never was what He made out to be. He won't save no more sinners,--it's all false what the Bible says, it's been _proved_. I suppose you've heard about _that_ in Cornwall?" "I was down to the shop," said the old lady, with the gentle contempt of one speaking to a foolish child. "I was down to the shop December month, and Mrs. Baragwaneth showed me the _Western Morning News_ with a picture and a lot of talk saying the Bible was ontrue, and Captain Billy Peters, of Treurthian mine, he was down-along too. How 'a did laugh at 'un! 'My dear,' he says, ''tis like the coast guards going mackerel-seining. Night after night have they been out, and shot the nets, too, for they be alwass seein' something briming, thinking it a school o' fish, and not knowing 'tis but moonshine. It's want of _experience_ that do make folk talk so.'" "That's all very well, Mother," answered the man, slightly nettled by the placid assurance of her tone. "That's all pretty enough, and though I don't understand your fishing terms I can guess at your meaning. But here's the _proof_ on one side and nothing at all on t'other. Here's all the learned men of all countries as says the Bible is not true, _and proving_ it, and here's you with no learning at all just saying it _is_, with no proof whatever."