The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11)
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Here begins his reply. From which if we take these words; “knowledge of
approbation;” “practical knowledge;” “heavenly bodies act upon sublunary
things, not only by their motion, but also by an occult virtue, which we
call influence;” “moral efficacy;” “general influence;” “special
influence;” “infuse something into the will;” “the will is moved;” “the
will is induced to will;” “the will suspends its own act;” which are all
nonsense, unworthy of a man, nay, and if a beast could speak, unworthy
of a beast, and can befal no creature whose nature is not depraved by
doctrine; nothing at all remaineth to be answered. Perhaps the word,
_occult virtue_, is not to be taxed as unintelligible. But then I may
tax therein the want of ingenuity in him that had rather say, that
heavenly bodies _do work by an occult virtue_, than that they _work he
knoweth not how_; which he would not confess, but endeavours to make
_occult_ be taken for a _cause_. The rest of this reply is one of those
consequences, which I have answered in the beginning, where I compare
the inconveniences of both opinions, that is, “that either Adam did not
sin, or his sin proceeded necessarily from God;” which is no stronger a
consequence than if out of this, “that a man is lame necessarily,” one
should infer, that _either he is not lame_, or that _his lameness
proceeded necessarily from the will of God_. To the end of this number
there is nothing more of argument. The place is filled up with wondering
and railing.
NO. XII.
[Sidenote: The Bishop’s reply.]
_J. D._ “Fifthly, if there be no liberty, there shall be no day of doom,
no last judgment, no rewards nor punishments after death. A man can
never make himself a criminal, if he be not left at liberty to commit a
crime. No man can be justly punished for doing that which was not in his
power to shun. To take away liberty hazards heaven, but undoubtedly it
leaves no hell.”
_T. H._ The arguments of greatest consequence are the third and fifth,
and fall both into one: namely, if there be a necessity of all events,
that it will follow that praise and reprehension, reward and punishment,
are all vain and unjust: and that if God should openly forbid, and
secretly necessitate the same action, punishing men for what they could
not avoid, there would be no belief among them of heaven or hell.