A history of the Irish poor law, in connexion with the condition of the peopleNicholls, George, Sir
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A history of the Irish poor law, in connexion with the condition of the people
Nicholls, George, Sir
Poor laws -- Ireland -- History
It had been much urged, he said, as a means of preventing undue pressure
on the workhouse, that a residence in the district of three years or
some other definite period should be a condition to any person’s being
relieved therein; but he declared that he was opposed to establishing a
law of settlement in Ireland, being quite convinced that it is one of
the greatest evils of the poor-laws in England. It circumscribes the
market for industry. It has led to immense litigation, and any person,
he observed, “who has attended the quarter sessions, and there witnessed
the disputes that arise between parishes as to whether a person had been
hired for a year and a day, whether he had been ordered to go home on
the day before the expiration of the term so as to destroy the
settlement, or whether he had served a full year and a day, and various
other similar questions—any person who has attended to this litigation
and those disputes, will not have any wish that I should introduce the
question of settlement into this bill.”
When the whole of the workhouses are in operation, and we are enabled to
relieve all that are entitled to it, we may then, he observed, prohibit
vagrancy; but until we can do the one, it will not be just altogether to
prohibit the other. It is not therefore proposed to prevent persons
asking alms, if they can show they have applied for and failed in
obtaining relief. This is a necessary step in the transition from one
state to another. If it succeeds, we shall hereafter be able to prohibit
vagrancy.
His lordship then went over the ground more fully discussed in the
Report, with regard to the local machinery, the question of rating, the
extent of the unions, cost of the workhouses, emigration, and some other
minor points; and then stated that the safest way of introducing such a
law as had been described, would be to use the simple machinery which
had been found so advantageous in England. It was therefore proposed,
instead of forming a separate commission for Ireland, that the Poor Law
Commissioners for England should have the power of intrusting to one or
two of their body, the power of acting in Ireland for carrying the law
into operation. This would he thought be better than establishing a
separate commission. A lengthened discussion then took place in
reference to the proposed measure, in which Mr. Shaw, Mr. O'Connell,
Lord Howick, Sir Robert Peel, Lord Stanley, and other members took part.
[Sidenote: The bill read a first time.] Doubts were of course expressed,
and objections stated; but on the whole the measure was not received
unfavourably, and the bill was ordered to be read a first time.
[Sidenote: The bill read a second time and committed.]
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