A Selection from the Discourses of Epictetus with the Encheiridion — John Shaqi
A Selection from the Discourses of Epictetus with the EncheiridionEpictetus
Philosophy
A Selection from the Discourses of Epictetus with the Encheiridion
Epictetus
Philosophy -- Early works to 1800
So then all these great and dreadful deeds have this origin, in the
appearance (opinion)? Yes, this origin and no other. The Iliad is
nothing else than appearance and the use of appearances. It appeared to
Alexander to carry off the wife of Menelaus. It appeared to Helene to
follow him. If then it had appeared to Menelaus to feel that it was a
gain to be deprived of such a wife, what would have happened? Not only
would the Iliad have been lost, but the Odyssey also. On so small a
matter then did such great things depend? But what do you mean by such
great things? Wars and civil commotions, and the destruction of many
men and cities. And what great matter is this? Is it nothing? But what
great matter is the death of many oxen, and many sheep, and many nests
of swallows or storks being burnt or destroyed? Are these things then
like those? Very like. Bodies of men are destroyed, and the bodies of
oxen and sheep; the dwellings of men are burnt, and the nests of
storks. What is there in this great or dreadful? Or show me what is the
difference between a man’s house and a stork’s nest, as far as each is
a dwelling; except that man builds his little houses of beams and tiles
and bricks, and the stork builds them of sticks and mud. Are a stork
and a man then like things? What say you? In body they are very much
alike.
Does a man then differ in no respect from a stork? Don’t suppose that I
say so; but there is no difference in these matters (which I have
mentioned). In what then is the difference? Seek and you will find that
there is a difference in another matter. See whether it is not in a man
the understanding of what he does, see if it is not in social
community, in fidelity, in modesty, in steadfastness, in intelligence.
Where then is the great good and evil in men? It is where the
difference is. If the difference is preserved and remains fenced round,
and neither modesty is destroyed, nor fidelity, nor intelligence, then
the man also is preserved; but if any of these things is destroyed and
stormed like a city, then the man too perishes: and in this consist the
great things. Alexander, you say, sustained great damage then when the
Hellenes invaded and when they ravaged Troy, and when his brothers
perished. By no means; for no man is damaged by an action which is not
his own; but what happened at that time was only the destruction of
stork’s nests. Now the ruin of Alexander was when he lost the character
of modesty, fidelity, regard to hospitality, and to decency. When was
Achilles ruined? Was it when Patroclus died? Not so. But it happened
when he began to be angry, when he wept for a girl, when he forgot that
he was at Troy not to get mistresses, but to fight. These things are
the ruin of men, this is being besieged, this is the destruction of
cities, when right opinions are destroyed, when they are corrupted.
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