_White_: We do not believe that the Southern States wish with any enthusiasm to secede. They merely wish to establish their right to do so. Acknowledge that by evacuating Fort Sumter, and nothing will come of it but a perfectly proper concession to an independence of spirit that is not disloyal to the Union at heart. _Seward_: You understand, of course, that I can say nothing officially. _Jennings_: These are nothing but informal suggestions. _Seward_: But I may tell you that I am not unsympathetic. _White_: We were sure that that would be so. _Seward_: And my word is not without influence. _Jennings_: It can be used to bring you very great credit, Mr. Seward. _Seward_: In the mean time, you will say nothing of this interview, beyond making your reports, which should be confidential. _White_: You may rely upon us. _Seward (rising with the others)_: Then I will bid you good-morning. _White_: We are profoundly sensible of the magnanimous temper in which we are convinced you will conduct this grave business. Good-morning, Mr. Seward. _Jennings_: And I-- _There is a knock at the door_. _Seward_: Yes--come in. A CLERK _comes in_. _Clerk_: The President is coming up the stairs, sir. _Seward_: Thank you. THE CLERK _goes_. This is unfortunate. Say nothing, and go at once. LINCOLN _comes in, now whiskered and bearded._ _Lincoln_: Good-morning, Mr. Seward. Good-morning, gentlemen. _Seward_: Good-morning, Mr. President. And I am obliged to you for calling, gentlemen. Good-morning. _He moves towards the door_. _Lincoln_: Perhaps these gentlemen could spare me ten minutes. _White_: It might not-- _Lincoln_: Say five minutes. _Jennings_: Perhaps you would-- _Lincoln_: I am anxious always for any opportunity to exchange views with our friends of the South. Much enlightenment may be gained in five minutes. Be seated, I beg you--if Mr. Seward will allow us. _Seward_: By all means. Shall I leave you? _Lincoln_: Leave us--but why? I may want your support, Mr. Secretary, if we should not wholly agree. Be seated, gentlemen. SEWARD _places a chair for_ LINCOLN, _and they sit at the table_. You have messages for us? _White_: Well, no, we can't say that. _Lincoln_: No messages? Perhaps I am inquisitive? _Seward_: These gentlemen are anxious to sound any moderating influences. _Lincoln_: I trust they bring moderating influences with them. You will find me a ready listener, gentlemen. _Jennings_: It's a delicate matter, Mr. Lincoln. Ours is just an informal visit. _Lincoln_: Quite, quite. But we shall lose nothing by knowing each other's minds. _White_: Shall we tell the President what we came to say, Mr. Seward? _Lincoln_: I shall be grateful. If I should fail to understand, Mr. Seward, no doubt, will enlighten me. _Jennings_: We thought it hardly worth while to trouble you at so early a stage. _Lincoln_: So early a stage of what? _Jennings_: I mean--