Mr. DAVIS. Thank you; and may I submit later the evidences and proofs to which I have referred? The CHAIRMAN. You may do that. Mr. DAVIS. Senators and Representatives in joint committee assembled, I thank you for the close attention which you have given to my remarks and for the liberal extension of time within which to make them; and on behalf of the inventors of this country I assure you of our full confidence and belief that you will finally modify the proposed act in a way that will protect our properties and persons against the monopolistic giants who do now or may hereafter seek to destroy us. Mr. SOUSA. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman referred to "visible music." Now, as I think you can see, that [referring to sheet music] is music, one notation. This [indicating perforated roll] is a perforated roll. That is visible; that is music in another notation. That is what they are taking [indicating perforated roll]; that [indicating sheet music] is what we are paid for. Mr. HERBERT. Mr. Chairman, one word. Mr. Davis has made a statement which is absolutely untrue. He said, speaking about the Æolian Company and this contract which they have signed, or made the publishers sign with them, that "They control the publishers and the publishers control the composers." That is absolutely untrue in my case. Nobody controls my works, the works that I am going to write. I am going to bring out a work in September, of which I have only written a few notes so far. I do not even know what I am going to write, and nobody has a contract with me to-day. I want to state most emphatically that I have not even been approached by any firm for the future. Mr. CURRIER. Who is your publisher? Mr. HERBERT. Mr. Whitmark, of New York. Mr. CURRIER. Has anybody else published any of your music? Mr. HERBERT. Yes; Schubert & Co., Schirmer & Co., and so on. Mr. CURRIER. Do you mean lately? Mr. HERBERT. That was before I went with Whitmark. Mr. CURRIER. How long have you been with him? Mr. HERBERT. About six or seven years. Mr. CURRIER. And nobody else has published any of your music in six or seven years? Mr. HERBERT. Not since then; no, sir. Naturally, I have a perfect right to go around to my friends and get the best offer I can, have I not? Mr. CURRIER. Surely. Mr. HERBERT. There must be competition. But I want to state most emphatically--and I know that these gentlemen are going to try to make the point that arrangements have already been made--that there have no arrangements been made in my case--absolutely none. I have not even been approached by any one of the companies--not even by the company, for instance, that is in favor of paying the royalty, the Victor Talking Machine Company. They have never spoken a word to me about the future, and I have not made a contract for my next work with Whitmark & Sons yet. I may publish it with somebody else; I do not know. So I am perfectly free to say that his statement in that respect was absolutely untrue.