In the nature of the case it must be so. My statements are not based alone upon any special contracts or facts; but as long as human nature remains as it is, as long as the business problem involved in mechanical playing instruments remains as it is, it must be true that a proposition, if enacted and enforced, to subject perforated music rolls to copyright protection will enormously burden the American people for the benefit of corporations and middlemen, and only very slightly for the benefit of musical composers. These distinguished gentlemen--Mr. Herbert and Mr. Sousa--are so distinguished that they can make their own terms, and this bill would enrich them. I do not see that they need to be enriched. I believe that these gentlemen, for amusing the American people, are each one of them receiving more money than Theodore Roosevelt is receiving for regulating the affairs of mankind. [Laughter.] And I myself have contributed many a dollar to their coffers, and I have always obtained full value therefor. I have had the pleasure of listening to two of their operas lately, and if any of you gentlemen get a chance to hear one of them I hope you will not miss it, because it is worth the price. But this business problem that I am expounding is one of great complexity, and while the result of many years of experience with this general topic and the result of many months of special investigation of this subject convinces me that all my statements as to how the thing must work are correct, I can not, in any brief period of time, prove these statements to be true by depositions or testimony of witnesses. Mr. CHANEY. Can you give us an illustration of the respect in which the mere copyrighting of the music roll will do all that? Mr. WALKER. Yes; I can. I think I can do it in three or four minutes. The music that the American people want to play now is made up of two kinds--classic music, uncopyrighted music, and the current music that comes out. Now, if this scheme were carried out the Æolian people would have the exclusive right to perforate paper rolls in accordance with all the current music covered by their contracts with the music publishers; and those contracts cover at least nine-tenths of all the music being produced month by month and year by year.