That is wrong, because it gives him two recoveries; and in patent cases the courts have established for more than a quarter of a century that the patentee is entitled to a recovery of profits or damages, whichever he prefers, but is not entitled to recover both. No proposition has ever been made, in any statute, to give anybody a double recovery until it is made here; and here he is told that he shall have both. And what is worse, down at the bottom there of the subsection, if it turns out that there were no damages inflicted and no profits made, then the provision is that the judge shall fix the damages at such a sum as he finds to be just; and then, after the judge is told to exercise his discretion to fix a just sum, he is told that that sum must not be less than $250. On page 18, among the evils and misfortunes that are to be inflicted upon the unwitting infringer as well as the willful infringer, is the following. He must-- deliver up on oath, to be impounded during the pendency of action, upon such terms and conditions as the court may prescribe, all goods alleged to infringe a copyright. So that if anybody wants to drive his competitor out of business, all he has to do is to file a bill alleging that the competing goods infringe, and he does not even have to swear to that; and then, in pursuance of that bill, all the property of that alleged infringer is impounded during the course of the litigation. And it would be a very dull complainant that could not keep the litigation going at least five years, and to that extent eliminate competition. The next one is wickeder still. The infringer must-- deliver up on oath for destruction all the infringing copies or devices, etc. Here is a case of an unwitting infringer. He is found to infringe. He thought he did not infringe. Good lawyers told him he did not. The court finally found that he did, and there, among the penalties, all his goods must be delivered up for destruction. Now, that is entirely wrong. The courts have decided in patent cases that under precisely those circumstances the defendant has a right to export his goods and sell them in foreign countries; and there is no ethical and no legal reason why an unwitting infringer of a copyright, after having been found to infringe in this country, should not export his goods and sell them elsewhere. And the circuit court of appeals for the second circuit has unanimously decided, in patent cases, that that is perfectly right. Mr. WEBB. Not only the copyrighted goods, but the machines themselves. Mr. WALKER. I will come to the other point--certainly; and he must not only have those destroyed, but the "plates, molds, matrices, or other means of making such infringing copies."