Mr. SOUSA. That is very true. But the more leeway you give the talking machine the greater encroachments they will make. If they are made to pay a royalty on all compositions that they use, perhaps they will not have so many bad ones in their records. [Laughter.] Senator SMOOT. That is what I intended to find out, as to whether it was simply a personal affair. Mr. CAMPBELL. Is not the real reason that if it protects you and other composers, there is an incentive to you to compose? Mr. SOUSA. Oh, yes; I can compose better if I get a thousand dollars than I can for six hundred. [Laughter.] Mr. CAMPBELL. That is the real reason. STATEMENT OF PAUL FULLER, ESQ., OF NEW YORK. Mr. FULLER. My original rôle, Mr. Chairman and gentlemen, was as one of the members of the Bar Association of New York, and as chairman of the committee to express to you gentlemen all the efforts that had been made and the most extraordinary result that has been accomplished from conflicting interests in getting up the framework of this bill, and to say on behalf of a number of the conferees, we will call them--the American Publishers' Copyright League, the America Publishers' Association, the National Academy of Design, the Fine Arts Federation, the Music Publishers' Association, the American Library Association, the Print Publishers, the Engraving Copyright League, the United Typothetæ, and the National Typographical Union--that they felt that a great achievement had been reached in getting the framework of this bill in its present condition. It is in such shape now that when anything is the matter with it we know where to apply the remedy. In the present chaotic condition of the copyright laws it would require an X ray to find where the mistake was and how to remedy it. I did not intend to say more than a word, but the suggestions made by the last speaker, Mr. Pettit, are of so vicious a character--not intentionally so, but they show precisely how a good bill can be made bad--that I am going to extend my remarks for the five or ten minutes required to point out why they should not be regarded at all. For instance, take section 3. Our friend wants to alter that, and it is absolutely unalterable if justice and common sense are to prevail. All that section says is that the copyright shall extend to all the copyrightable component parts of the work copyrighted, any and all reproductions or copies thereof, in whatever form, style, or size, and all matter reproduced therein in which copyright is already subsisting.