Mr. FULLER. If he has paid Mr. Sousa for the privilege of that public performance. But he can not, at the same time, under the payment for the privilege of a one-night stand, sing it into a phonograph and give it to a million people all over the country. Mr. BONYNGE. And he can not give that public performance unless he has paid Mr. Sousa his royalty? Mr. FULLER. No. Mr. MCGAVIN. Would not the copyrighting of this phonograph record give the musician, say Mr. Sousa, double protection? He already has the protection of the copyright on his sheet music, has he not? Mr. FULLER. Yes. Mr. MCGAVIN. And he would have the further protection of the copyright of the music as it goes into the phonograph, would he not? Mr. FULLER. No; it is the talking-machine people who want a copyright on that, and to hold it against the original composer. Mr. CHANEY. I did not understand Mr. Pettit that way. Mr. FULLER. Mr. Sousa is entitled to it, whether he prints his music on a sheet of paper or whether he prints it on a disk; but the man that prints it on the disk is not entitled to it. That is all. Mr. BONYNGE. He has not originated anything. Mr. FULLER. No. Mr. BONYNGE. Except that the disk is a patentable thing, and on that he has a patent. Mr. FULLER. Yes. The bill is a compromise, and one which every lawyer here and every lawyer who was at the conference thinks he can better; but it is the best that could be had to protect and satisfy all the interests. It has been stated that perhaps none of the interests are entirely satisfied. If that is true, it is the best kind of a bill. There are only two kinds: The bill that is perfect, the one that satisfies everybody--and there is none such; and the one that satisfies nobody, because nobody has had injustice done. Mr. SULZER. Mr. Chairman, I move that two copies of the proceedings of these hearings be printed, one for the Senate and one for the House. Mr. CHANEY. I second that motion. (The motion was carried, and the committee thereupon adjourned until to-morrow, Thursday, June 7, 1906, at 10 o'clock a.m.) COMMITTEE ON PATENTS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, _Thursday, June 7, 1906_. The committee met at 10 o'clock a.m., pursuant to adjournment, conjointly with the Senate Committee on Patents. Present: Senators Kittredge (chairman), Mallory, and Latimer; Representatives Currier, Hinshaw, Bonynge, Campbell, Chaney, McGavin, Sulzer, and Webb. Mr. PUTNAM. Mr. Chairman, Colonel Olin was next upon the list of those who were to speak for particular groups in the conference. Colonel Olin participated in the conference as counsel for the American Publishers' Copyright League, and I think that he tends in his remarks to express something of the sentiments of some others of the publishing group. STATEMENT OF STEPHEN H. OLIN, ESQ.