Re-examined by Mr. Smyth: A vessel coming out here as a barque, or schooner, would have square, as well as fore and aft canvas, and would be in proper trim. She would not require water in her boiler, and when sailing the funnel would be unshipped and put down below. The _Alert_ had two boilers, but when the alterations were made, one boiler as large as the previous two was put in. This boiler was in her when she was lost. It stood about four feet above the level of the main deck. The old boilers did not come above the deck. A light cargo would make the ship more lively, and would affect her stability. She did not have enough. If the vessel were on her course standing out to seaward, and there was no apprehension of danger, there would be nothing to prevent me, as a seaman, from altering her course. It was good seamanship to make for the Heads. I knew the late Captain Mathieson. He was a first-rate seaman, understood his business, was sober and attentive, and quite fit for the position. The greater the head of water outside the pantry window, the greater the pressure, and the more quickly the water would be forced through. _Q._—We are told by Mr. Ponting that the vessel was lying over, and that the water was over the whole of that aperture, coming up to the break of the poop; and there is that body of water constantly coming in from the sea. That is as far as we can give you the pressure of the water outside. Can you make a calculation of the quantity of water that would go through that aperture per minute, and the weight of it? _A._—Assuming the water is two feet higher than the aperture, I make it 2,820 gallons, and 28,200 lbs. in a minute. There are 2,240 lbs. to the ton, that would give between twelve and thirteen tons. _Q._—Supposing the water is only one foot above the aperture, what difference would it make? _A._—It would be a third less, and that would be eight or ten tons. If the water were flush with the top of the aperture, the discharge through would be a little less than I have stated, and if fifty or sixty tons of water were down that aperture, a small sea would smother the vessel, and she would go right down stern first. To His Honour.—If the forty-four tons of cargo had been placed further foreward, it certainly would have helped the ship a bit by giving her a more even trim.