Charles Sumner: his complete works, volume 14 (of 20)Sumner, Charles
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Charles Sumner: his complete works, volume 14 (of 20)
Sumner, Charles
Slavery -- United States; Speeches, addresses, etc., American
MR. SUMNER. It does not appear whether it was at a subsequent session,
but it simply appears that it was after the division. The Senator
understands that the division in the British Parliament corresponds
with what we call the yeas and nays. They “divide,” as it is
called,--the yeas and the nays being counted by tellers as they pass.
The American authority is in harmony with the English already quoted. I
read again from Cushing.
“The disallowance of votes usually takes place, when, after the
declaration of the numbers by the Speaker, it is discovered
that certain members who voted were not present when the
question was put, or _were so interested in the question_”--
Mark those words, if you please, Sir--
“that they ought to have withdrawn from the House.
“It has already been seen, that, when it is ascertained that
members have improperly voted, on a division, who were not
in the House when the question was put, if this takes place
before the numbers are declared by the Speaker, such votes are
disallowed by him at once, and not included in the numbers
declared. If the fact is not ascertained until after the
numbers are declared, it is then necessary that there should
be a motion and vote of the House for their disallowance; and
this may take place, for anything that appears to the contrary,
at any time during the session, and has in fact taken place
after the lapse of several days from the time the votes were
given.”[20]
Thus much for the remedy by disallowance; and this brings me to the
proposition by amending the journal. That remedy, from the nature
of the case, is applicable to an error apparent on the face of the
journal. I ask Senators to note the distinction. It is applicable to an
error apparent on the face of the journal. If the interest of a Senator
appeared only by evidence _aliunde_, by evidence outside, as, for
instance, that he had some private interest in the results of a pending
measure by which he was disqualified, his vote could be disallowed
only on motion; but if the incapacity of the Senator to vote on a
particular occasion appears on the journal itself, I submit that the
journal must be amended by striking out his vote. The case is patent.
We have already seen, by the opinions of eminent judges, great masters
of law in different ages, that what is contrary to the principles of
Natural Law must be void; and English judges tell us that even an Act
of Parliament must be treated as void, if it undertakes to make a man
judge in his own case.
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