The Lord of COBHAM said, "CHRIST upon Shere [_or Shrive or Maunday_] Thursday [_the day before Good Friday_] at night, sitting with his disciples at the Supper, after that he had supped, he took bread and giving thanks to the Father, he blessed it and brake it, and gave it to his disciples saying, _Take, and eat ye of this, all! This is my body that shall be betrayed for you! Do you this, in the remembrance of me._ This I believe!" said he. Then the Archbishop asked him, "If it were bread after the consecration, and the sacramental words said?" The Lord of COBHAM said, "I believe that the Sacrament of the Altar is very CHRIST's body in form of bread; the same body that was born of the Virgin MARY, done on the cross, dead and buried, and the third day rose from death to life: which body is now glorified in heaven." Then said one of the Doctors of the Law, "After the sacramental words said, there remaineth no bread but the body of CHRIST!" Then the Lord of COBHAM said to one, Master JOHN WHITEHEAD, "You said to me in the Castle of Cowling [_Lord COBHAM's home_], that the host sacred was not CHRIST's body: but I said, 'It was CHRIST's body!' though Seculars and Friars hold each one against other in this opinion." Then said they, "We say all that it is GOD's body!" And they asked him, "Whether it were material bread after the consecration?" Then said the Lord, "I believe it is CHRIST's body in form of bread. Sir, believe ye not thus?" And the Archbishop said, "Yea!" Then the Doctors asked him, "Whether it were only CHRIST's body after the consecration, and no bread?" And he said to them, "It is CHRIST's body and bread. For right as CHRIST was here in manhood, and the godhead hid in the manhood: so I believe verily that CHRIST's flesh and his blood is hid there in the form of bread." =SMILING THEY SAY, "IT IS AN HERESY!"= Then they smiled each on other, deeming him taken in heresy; and said, "It is an heresy!" The Archbishop asked him, "What bread it was?" and the Clerks also, "Whether it were material or not?" Then the Lord said, "The Gospel speaketh not of this term _material_; and therefore I will not! but say, it is CHRIST's body and bread! For the Gospel saith, _Ego sum panis vivus qui de coelo descendi_, that is to say, "I am quick bread that came down from heaven." For as our Lord JESUS CHRIST is Very GOD and Very Man; so the most blessed Sacrament of the Altar is CHRIST's body and bread." Then they said, "It is an heresy, to say that it is bread after the consecration and the sacramental words said, but only CHRIST's body." The Lord said, "Saint PAUL the Apostle was as wise as ye be! and he called it _bread_; where he saith thus _The bread that we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the LORD?_" Then they said, "PAUL must be otherwise understanded; for it is an heresy to say, that it is bread after the consecration, but only CHRIST's body: for it is against the determination of the Church."