Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648. — John Shaqi
Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648.Bradford, William
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Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648.
Bradford, William
Pilgrims (New Plymouth Colony) -- Early works to 1800; Separatists
Mr. JOHNSON, of whom something was spoken before, was pastor of the
church of God at Amsterdam. A very grave man he was, and an able
teacher, and was the most solemn in all his administrations that we
have seen any, and especially in dispensing the seals of the covenant,
both baptism and the Lord’s supper. And a good disputant he was. We
heard Mr. Smith upon occasion say, that he was persuaded no men living
were able to maintain a cause against those two men, meaning Mr.
Johnson and Mr. Ainsworth, if they had not the truth on their side.
He, by reason of many dissensions that fell out in the church, and the
subtilty of one of the elders of the same, came after many years to
alter his judgment about the government of the church, and his practice
thereupon, which caused a division amongst them. But he lived not many
years after, and died at Amsterdam after his return from Embden.
_Young men._--But he is much spoken against for excommunicating his
brother and his own father, and maintaining his wife’s cause, who was
by his brother and others reproved for her pride in apparel.
_Ancient men._--Himself hath often made his own defence, and others for
him. The church did, after long patience towards them and much pains
taken with them, excommunicate them for their unreasonable and endless
opposition, and such things as did accompany the same; and such was
the justice thereof, as he could not but consent thereto. In our time
his wife was a grave matron, and very modest both in her apparel and
all her demeanour, ready to any good works in her place, and helpful
to many, especially the poor, and an ornament to his calling. She was
a young widow when he married her, and had been a merchant’s wife,
by whom he had a good estate, and was a godly woman; and because she
wore such apparel as she had been formerly used to, which were neither
excessive nor immodest, for their chiefest exceptions were against her
wearing of some whalebone in the bodice and sleeves of her gown, corked
shoes, and other such like things as the citizens of her rank then
used to wear. And although, for offence sake, she and he were willing
to reform the fashions of them so far as might be without spoiling of
their garments, yet it would not content them except they came full up
to their size. Such was the strictness or rigidness (as now the term
goes) of some in those times, as we can by experience and of our own
knowledge show in other instances. We shall for brevity sake only show
one.
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