Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648. — John Shaqi
Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648.Bradford, William
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Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648.
Bradford, William
Pilgrims (New Plymouth Colony) -- Early works to 1800; Separatists
words of God, and for the most part in a continued phrase and words
of Scripture. He used great dexterity, and was ready in comparing
Scripture with Scripture, one with another. In a word, the times and
place in which he lived were not worthy of such a man.
_Young men._--But we find that he is taxed, in a book writ by George
Johnson, with apostasy and to be a man-pleaser, etc.
_Ancient men._--Who can escape the scourge of tongues? Christ himself
could not do it when he was here upon earth, although there was no
guile found in his mouth; nor Moses, although he was the meekest man
in the earth. For man-pleasing, they that tax him [do it] because he
concurred against their violent and endless dissensions about the
former matters. And for his apostasy, this was all the matter. When he
was a young man, before he came out of England, he at the persuasion of
some of his godly friends went once or twice to hear a godly minister
preach; and this was the great matter of apostasy, for which those
violent men thought him worthy to be deposed from his place, and for
which they thus charge him. And truly herein they may worthily bear the
name of rigid, etc.
Mr. JOHN SMITH was an eminent man in his time, and a good preacher, and
of other good parts; but his inconstancy, and unstable judgment, and
being so suddenly carried away with things, did soon overthrow him.
Yet we have some of us heard him use this speech: “Truly,” said he,
“we being now come into a place of liberty, are in great danger, if we
look not well to our ways; for we are like men set upon the ice, and
therefore may easily slide and fall.” But in this example it appears it
is an easier matter to give good counsel than to follow it, to foresee
danger than to prevent it: which made the prophet to say, “O Lord,
the way of man is not in himself, neither is it in man to walk and to
direct his steps.” He was some time pastor to a company of honest and
godly men which came with him out of England, and pitched at Amsterdam.
He first fell into some errors about the Scriptures, and so into some
opposition with Mr. Johnson, who had been his tutor, and the church
there. But he was convinced of them by the pains and faithfulness of
Mr. Johnson and Mr. Ainsworth, and revoked them; but afterwards was
drawn away by some of the Dutch Anabaptists, who finding him to be a
good scholar and unsettled, they easily misled the most of his people,
and other of them scattered away. He lived not many years after, but
died there of a consumption, to which he was inclined before he came
out of England. His and his people’s condition may be an object of pity
for after times.
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