Mr. VELDE. I certainly want to say, Mr. Moulder, that I concur with you in the statement you have just made about the matter of taking photographs. However, I do feel that we should also protect the freedom of the press as much as possible, instead of merely protecting the so-called rights of some of the witnesses who will appear here. It is very important in my opinion, and I think the Chair will concur with me in this, that we do give the public, especially in the great Northwest area of our country, the benefit of all the information we are able to obtain. And I do feel that within the rules of the House of Representatives we should do everything we can to give that information to the public here in Seattle. I also want to say that it is great to be back here. I enjoyed very much being here last June for at least 3 days, as chairman of the full committee at that time. Mr. MOULDER. I am in complete agreement with you as to the committee televising and giving the public all information possible as to those who have proved to be active in the Communist Party. However, the rules of the House and the ruling of the Speaker of the House prohibit the televising of the hearings we are going to hold today. Are you ready to proceed, Mr. Counsel? Mr. TAVENNER. Yes. Mr. MOULDER. Call your first witness. Mr. TAVENNER. Mr. Eugene V. Dennett, please come forward. Mr. MOULDER. Hold up your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony which you are about to give before this committee shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you, God? Mr. DENNETT. I do. TESTIMONY OF EUGENE VICTOR DENNETT, ACCOMPANIED BY HIS COUNSEL, KENNETH A. MacDONALD Mr. TAVENNER. What is your name, please, sir? Mr. DENNETT. Eugene Victor Dennett. Mr. TAVENNER. Are you accompanied by counsel, Mr. Dennett? Mr. DENNETT. I am, sir. Mr. TAVENNER. Will counsel please identify himself for the record. Mr. MACDONALD. Kenneth A. MacDonald, attorney at law, of Seattle, Wash. Mr. TAVENNER. Mr. Dennett, you were subpenaed as a witness before this committee in June of 1954, and you were called on the first day of that hearing, which was June 14. Mr. DENNETT. Yes, sir. Mr. TAVENNER. At that time you stated some special considerations you had in mind under which you felt that you desired not to testify and, as a result, you refused to testify on the ground of the fifth amendment. Mr. DENNETT. Correct. Mr. TAVENNER. Later on during the hearings, in fact on the next to the last day of the hearings, you and your counsel came to me and stated that after further considering the matter, you desired to appear as a witness. Is that correct? Mr. DENNETT. That is correct. Mr. TAVENNER. As a result of that you were again called before the committee. Mr. DENNETT. Yes, sir.