Mr. LAWRIE. With reference to that question on Barbara Hartle and the previous question, I am going to invoke both the first and the fifth amendment which states that an individual is not compelled to be a witness against himself and shall not be deprived of liberty or property without due process of law. Mr. MOULDER. The next question, please, Mr. Wheeler. Mr. WHEELER. Where are you presently employed? Mr. LAWRIE. I am going to answer that question in this way: During the time the committee was here--I believe it was last June--I read in the newspapers where a number of workers, men and women, lost their jobs. Mr. MOULDER. You are not responding to the question. You must be responsive to the question and not take the question as an excuse for making a speech. Now the question is: Where are you now employed? Do you decline to answer? (The witness confers with his counsel.) Mr. MOULDER. Give him a reasonable time to decline or answer, and proceed with the next question. Mr. LAWRIE. At this time I am going to request that I be allowed to talk to my attorney. Mr. MOULDER. Very well. You will have an opportunity to confer with your attorney. (Witness confers with his counsel.) Mr. WHEELER. Are you ready to proceed, Mr. Witness? Mr. LAWRIE. I am ready to proceed. I would like to know if I can state my reasons for not answering this question. Mr. MOULDER. Certainly, if it is not at great length in the form of a speech. Or, you may decline to answer claiming and invoking the first amendment, as you have. Mr. LAWRIE. I don’t think that it will be long, but that is my opinion. I state again, as I stated before, because of many workers losing their jobs because they were mentioned by this committee or in some subpena, I believe that I have the right to earn a living, and that this committee may be responsible for my losing my job to make a living. And I would like to decline from answering that question, but if the committee compels me to, I will. Mr. VELDE. In that connection, have you ever made a living by being a member of the Communist Party? Has the Communist Party paid you anything for being a member of it? (The witness confers with his counsel.) Mr. LAWRIE. I am going to refuse to answer any questions that refer to communism--in this committee under the fifth amendment. Mr. WHEELER. Where are you presently employed? Mr. LAWRIE. I am going to make the same statement as I made before, that, due to the fact that many working people were fired from their jobs at the last hearing, that I am liable to the same thing happening to me, lose my source of income and---- Mr. WHEELER. Were you fired from your job after the hearings here last June? Mr. LAWRIE. No, not I, because I wasn’t here. Mr. WHEELER. Where were you? Mr. LAWRIE. I was working. Mr. WHEELER. Where? Mr. LAWRIE. I am going to have to speak to my counsel for a second. (The witness confers with his counsel.)