Mr. O’CONNELL. My best recollection is that that employment was over a period of maybe 5 or 6 months. It might have been 7 or 8. It was not very long, and I don’t think I could put it in the precise year or years that were involved. Mr. TAVENNER. Was it resumed at a later date? Mr. O’CONNELL. No; it was not resumed at any later date. Mr. TAVENNER. Did you receive any compensation or money from the IWO for anything other than the services you have mentioned? Mr. O’CONNELL. No; I certainly don’t recollect any. Mr. TAVENNER. Will you tell the committee, please, whether you had any employment since 1930 other than the positions you have already described and other than those matters related to the practice of law? Mr. O’CONNELL. Well, going back in 1930, I was still a student in St. Charles College. Mr. TAVENNER. We can pass that up. Mr. O’CONNELL. At Helena. Of course, during the summer months I was employed in the Anaconda Copper Mining Co.’s mines at Butte while I went to school. I think the summer of 1932 I was employed by the Industrial Accident Board of the State of Montana settling compensation cases during that period. I think I told about my employment with the Democratic National Committee while I was back here. I also had some employment as legal adviser to the State income-tax division of the State board of equalization of the State of Montana while I was running for State railroad and public service commissioner in Montana and before my election to that post. Then I think I have detailed all of the rest of it. Mr. TAVENNER. Mr. O’Connell, you spoke of being instrumental in organizing an old-age pension initiative, I believe you call it, in the State of Montana in 1939. Mr. O’CONNELL. As I remember, we were trying to put it on the 1940 ballot in Montana. Mr. TAVENNER. You are familiar, I suppose, with the Washington State Pension Union? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes; I am. I would like to say that at the time I was organizing the clubs in Montana I knew nothing whatever of the existence of the Washington Pension Union of the State of Washington, or any of its officers, or anybody connected with it. My first connection with the organization and the group was when I went to the State of Washington in 1944. Those contacts were made in my position as executive secretary of the Democratic Party. Mr. TAVENNER. You were also familiar, of course, with the Washington Commonwealth Federation, were you not? Mr. O’CONNELL. I really couldn’t say that I was, Mr. Tavenner. I think the Washington Commonwealth Federation was still in existence when I went to the State of Washington in 1944, but if I remember correctly, shortly after the elections in November of 1944 the Washington Commonwealth Federation was dissolved but I had no connection with the Washington Commonwealth Federation at all. Mr. TAVENNER. Did you become acquainted with Barbara Hartle after you became a resident of the State of Washington?