$21,000 was granted to Farm Research, according to our information. Do you recall that? Mr. O’CONNELL. Well, I don’t recall it, but I presume your information is correct. Mr. TAVENNER. Farm Research was cited by the Special Committee on Un-American Activities on March 29, 1944, as a Communist-front organization, receiving finances from the Robert Marshall Foundation. Did the foundation make grants to the National Lawyers Guild in the amount of $15,250? Mr. O’CONNELL. I am sure it did, although I don’t know whether the amount is correct? Mr. TAVENNER. What was the purpose of those grants? Mr. O’CONNELL. The purpose of those grants was to assist the Lawyers Guild in getting out certain legal material as far as particular labor cases before the NLRB and the courts were concerned. Mr. TAVENNER. Was it furnished to assist the guild in getting out any other work besides that? Mr. O’CONNELL. No. They came in with a specific application to do this particular kind of job or work that had to be done, and where they were working particularly in representation of labor, in the labor field. Mr. TAVENNER. Total of $25,000 was granted, according to our information, to the New World? Mr. O’CONNELL. $25,000? Mr. TAVENNER. Yes, sir. Mr. O’CONNELL. I know grants were made, I think that paper was originally called the Washington New Dealer. Isn’t that right? And grants were made to it while it was the Washington New Dealer. It was changed to the New World and grants were made both to it as the Washington New Dealer and the New World. But the minute it became a part of the People’s World which became a Northwest edition of the People’s World, there were no further grants made. Mr. TAVENNER. Did you procure from the Robert Marshall Foundation a grant to be used by any progressive causes in the Northwest in May 1949? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes; I think a grant for the Seattle Labor School. Mr. TAVENNER. Was the amount of that $4,000? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes. Mr. TAVENNER. You left Seattle in May 1949 to attend your meeting in New York City of your trustees? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes. I don’t know whether it was May of 1949, but some time---- Mr. TAVENNER. And returned with $4,000 for the Seattle Labor School. Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes; that is right. Mr. TAVENNER. The Seattle Labor School, according to the testimony of Barbara Hartle, is the same as the Pacific Northwest Labor School. It was first known by the name of Seattle Labor School and then later became known as the Pacific Northwest Labor School. Mr. O’CONNELL. Wasn’t it the other way around? Mr. TAVENNER. I may have it backward. You probably would know. Mr. O’CONNELL. I don’t remember which was which, but I think it was the other way around. But I can remember that grant; yes. Mr. TAVENNER. Who was instrumental in soliciting the funds for that labor school? Mr. O’CONNELL. John Daschbach. Mr. TAVENNER. The same person who used your name on the catalogue of the school as an instructor of course 112?