Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841 — John Shaqi
Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841Fuller, Margaret
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Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841
Fuller, Margaret
Mythology, Classical, in art; Mythology, Greek
MARGARET said that in every important sense Byron was his very opposite;
but Goethe hardly looked upon him as a responsible being. He was rather
the instrument of a _higher_ power. He was the exponent of his period.
SOPHIA PEABODY had been making a drawing of Crawford’s Orpheus at the
Athenæum. It was here brought down for me to see.
At Sophia’s request, MARGARET repeated a sonnet she had written on it.
She recited it wretchedly, but the sonnet was pleasant.
I spoke of Bode’s Essay on the Orphic Poetry, and sympathized in his view
of the spuriousness of the Hymns. They might have been signed Orpheus,
however, as other things were signed Hermes, simply because they were
exponents of Orphic thought.
MARGARET dilated on this Orphic thought.
I quoted Proclus in his Commentary on Plato’s “Republic” as follows:—
“Mars perpetually discerns and nourishes, and constantly
excites the contrarieties of the Universe, that the world may
exist perfect and entire in all its parts; but requires the
assistance of Venus, that he may bring order and harmony into
things contrary and discordant.
“Vulcan adorns by his art the sensible universe, which he
fills with certain natural impulses, powers, and proportions;
but _he_ requires the assistance of Venus, that he may invest
material effects with beauty, and by this means secure the
comeliness of the world. Venus is the source of all the
harmony and analogy in the Universe, and of the union of form
with matter, connecting and comprehending the powers of the
elements. Although this Goddess ranks among the supermundane
divinities, yet her principal employment consists in
beautifully illuminating the order, harmony, and communion of
all mundane concerns.”
I asked MARGARET if this was not something like her own thought,—this
Venus, for example, was it not better than that we got from Greek art?
She said it was the primal idea, but she did not attach much importance
to chronology. Philosophy must decide the age of a thought.
I gave her as good an abstract of Bode’s theory as I could.
WILLIAM WHITE took the drawing of Orpheus from me, and, while speaking of
its beauty, said it always made him angry to think of the deterioration
of the human figure. He thought it ought to have been prevented, and
that his ancestors had deprived him of his rights.
Upon this, MARGARET entered into a lively disquisition upon masculine
beauty. She said the best specimens of it she had ever seen were a
Southern oddity named Hutchinson and some Cambridge students who came
from Virginia.
We lost a finer talk to-night through the inclemency of the weather.
WHEELER was to have come with a great stock of information. Had he done
so, I need not have quoted Bode or Proclus.
CAROLINE W. HEALEY.
April 23, 1841.
IX.
HERMES AND ORPHEUS.
_April 29, 1841._
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