MR. WIGGINS: Last year I was sick and got behind with my work so I cut them each day as I needed them. I usually cut them earlier and bury them in a shady place to keep the wood dormant. I can get 100 per cent by chip grafting and in no other way. I don't use the cleft graft at all. The better fit you get in this method of propagating the higher the percentage will run. If you make a fit that is not quite a fit, you will be astonished to lose about 95 per cent. If you are just a little more careful, you might get 100 per cent to grow. I can tell by the way it feels when it is right. I use a crude method but succeed with it. I do four hundred in a half day. What is the use of going to another method when I get good results with this? PROFESSOR SMITH: You say a half-inch scion on a four-inch stock? MR. WIGGINS: Yes, on a four-inch stock you get a cut an inch or one and a half inch wide. You have a large space that is not covered at all. PROFESSOR SMITH: They live? MR. WIGGINS: Yes, of course. PROFESSOR SMITH: Only touch in spots? MR. WIGGINS: On top and bottom and on one side. I get cambium together at top--I am careful about that--and then I get on the left side an exact fit but not on the other sides. THE CHAIRMAN: Have you had much experience with walnuts? MR. WIGGINS: No. I should think the best results with walnut as well as with pecans would be by cutting the scion wood the year before. THE CHAIRMAN: This is certainly a very interesting discussion, but I have another grafter here yet. A demonstration by Mr. Jones will close this morning's session. (Mr. Jones gave a demonstration of cleft grafting stating that he used that method practically altogether.) APPENDIX REPORT OF THE SECRETARY-TREASURER Receipts: Dues $200.00 Gift 200.00 Sale of report 10.00 Advertisement 15.00 Miscellaneous 7.15 ________ $432.15 Expenses: Deficit $17.54 Reporting convention 47.13 Printing 355.74 Postage 66.34 Typewriting 19.14 Advertising 6.79 Expense of secretary to Albany 10.05 Expense of secretary to New York 2.75 Miscellaneous 11.72 ________ $537.20 Deficit $105.05