Notes and Queries, Number 04, November 24, 1849 — John Shaqi
Notes and Queries, Number 04, November 24, 1849Various
History
Notes and Queries, Number 04, November 24, 1849
Various
Questions and answers -- Periodicals
[The history of Caradoc ends with A.D. 1156. The continuation,
to the year 1270, is ascribed by Powel, the editor of the
volume, to the monks of Conway and Stratflur.]
Carmina Meredith filii Rhesi [Meredydd ab Rhys] mentionem
facientia de Madoco filio Oweni Gwynedd, et de suâ navigatione
in terras incognitas. Vixit hic Meredith circiter annum Domini
1477.
Madoc wyf, mwyedic wedd,
Iawn genau, Owen Gwynedd;
Ni fynnum dir, fy enaid oedd,
Na da mawr, ond y moroedd.
_The same in English._
Madoc I am the sonne of Owen Gwynedd
With stature large, and comely grace adorned;
No lands at home nor store of wealth me please,
My minde was whole to searche the ocean seas.
"These verses I received of my learned friend M. William
Camden." _Richard Hakluyt_, 1589.
[The eulogy of Meredydd ab Rhys is very indefinite, but deserves
notice on account of its early date. He "flourished," says W.
Owen, "between A.D. 1430 and 1460."]
"This land must needs be some part of that countrie of which the
Spaniardes affirme themselves to be the first finders sith
Hannos time; ... Whereupon it is manifest, that that countrie
was long before by Brytaines discouered, afore either Columbus
or Americus Vespatius lead anie Spaniardes thither. Of the viage
and returne of this Madoc there be _manie fables fained_, as the
common people doo use in distance of place {57} and length of
time rather to augment than to diminish: but sure it is, that
there he was."--HUMFREY LHOYD, _Additions to the Historie of
Cambria_, p. 228.
[Lhoyd, who translated the history of Caradoc, and made
considerable additions to it, died in 1568. He mentions the
second voyage of Madoc, but cites no authority.]
"This Madoc arriving in that westerne countrie, unto the which
he came, in the year 1170, left most of his people there: and
returning backe for more of his owne nation, acquaintance and
freends, to inhabite that faire and large countrie: went thither
againe with ten sailes, as I find noted by Gutyn Owen. I am of
opinion that the land, wherevnto he came, was some part of
Mexico:" etc.--David Powel, S.T.P., note in _The historie of
Cambria_, 1584. 4°. p. 229.
[The learned Powel relies on the authority of the poet Gutyn
Owen. "He wrote," says W. Owen, "between A.D. 1460 and
1490"--three centuries after the event in question!]
_Ethnographic evidence._
"They came [anno 1536] to part of the West Indies about Cape
Breton, shaping their course thence north-eastwards, vntill they
camme to the Island of Penguin," etc.--The voyage of master
Hore, in _The principall navigations_, etc. 1589. Fol.
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