Notes and Queries, Number 136, June 5, 1852: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc. — John Shaqi
Notes and Queries, Number 136, June 5, 1852: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.Various
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Notes and Queries, Number 136, June 5, 1852: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.
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"Now, then, though the _Præmunientes_ was obeyed nationally, yet the
clergy that met with the Parliament acted provincially, _i. e._ the
clergy of that province where the Parliament was held acted as a Synod
convened by their metropolitan, and the clergy of the other province
sent their deputies to the Lay Assembly to consult for them; but taxed
themselves, and did all manner of ecclesiastical business, at home in
their own province. _And this was pitched upon as a means of complying
with the Canons of the Church, which required frequent Provincial
Councils, and yet paying their attendance in Parliament; the
Archbishop's mandate summoned them to the one, and the præmunitory
clause to the other_, and both were obeyed."--_Atterbury on
Convocation_, p. 243.
The same view is taken by Kennet in his _Ecclesiastical Synods and
Parliamentary Convocations in the Church of England_.
Here, then, is the origin of Convocation, strictly so called, viz. the
Clergy withdrawing themselves from the Commons into a separate chamber for
purposes of debate, and for transacting their own business independently,
but yet not ceasing thereby at all to be a part of that parliament, to
their being summoned to which they owed the opportunity of meeting in their
provincial synod, which was _Congregatio tempore Parliamenti_.
We hear of the clerical proctors being occasionally present in the House of
Commons in the earlier part of our history; and we may reasonably infer
that they would not have been so present unless they had _a right_ to have
been there. If they had that right, then they were a part of parliament.
They certainly had that right by the clause _Præmunientes_ so often
referred to, "according to antient usage;" but they waived the exercise of
it, on finding it more advantageous to deliberate by themselves. At a later
period they wished to resume their right, and therefore petitioned "to be
admitted to sit in parliament WITH _the House of Commons_, according to
antient usage," of which Commons they had of usage considered themselves
the _spiritual_ part. An instance in point we shall find in a petition of
Parliament to Henry IV.:--
"Supplient humblement _les Communes_ de vostre Roialme, sibien
_Espirituelz_ come _Temporelz_."--_Rot. Parl._ 7 & 8 Henry IV. n. 128.
And again, in a proclamation of the 35 Henry VIII.:--
"The Nobles and _Commons_ both _Spirituall_ and Temporall, _assembled
in our Court of Parliament_, have, upon good, lawful, and virtuous
grounds," &c.
And "Direction to Justices of Peace," by the same King:--
"HENRY R.
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