Notes and Queries, Number 18, March 2, 1850Various
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Notes and Queries, Number 18, March 2, 1850
Various
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"Seynte Petres soster," I suspect has a reference to St. Petronilla's
legend. St. Petronilla, among our forefathers, was called St. Pernell,
and _The Golden Lengend_ imprinted 1527, by Wynkyn de Word, tells us,
fol. cxxxi. b., that she "was doughter of saynt peter thappostle, whiche
was ryght fayre and bewteous, and by the wyll of her fader she was vexed
with fevers and akes." For a long while she lay bed-ridden. From the
name of this saint, who went through so many years of her life in
sickness, perhaps was borrowed the word "pernell," to mean a person in a
sickly weak state of health, in which sense, Sir Thomas More (_Works_,
London, 1557, p. 893) employs it, while bantering Tindal. St. Peter's
daughter (St. Pernell) came to be looked upon, in this country, as the
symbol of bad health under all its forms. Now, if we suppose that the
poet mistook, and wrote "soster" instead of "doughter," we immediately
understand the drift of the latter part of the spell, which was, not
only to drive away witchcraft, but guard all the folks in that house
from sickness of every kind.
Daniel Rock.
Buckland, Faringdon.
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REPLIES TO MINOR QUERIES.
_By Hook or by Crook--Pokership--Gib Cat--Emerod._--I regret that very
pressing business has hitherto prevented me from supplying an omission
in my communication relating to the probable derivation of "By Hook or
by Crook;" namely, my authority for saying there was evidence of the
usage I referred to in forest customs. I now beg to supply that
omission, by referring to the numerous claims for fuel wood made by
divers persons at the justice seats held in the reigns of Charles I. and
Charles II. for the New Forest, and which will be found at the Tower and
Chapter House. Among others of these claims, I would mention that made
by the tenant of land in Barnford, No. 112., who claims to have had the
privilege, from _time immemorial_, of going into the king's wood to take
the _dead branches_ off the trees therein, "with a cart, a horse, a
_Hook and a Crook_, and a sail cloth." Verily this necessity for a sail
cloth seems to point very distinctly to his being obliged to collect his
fire-wood "by Hook or by Crook." May I add, that I do not think that any
of the notes I have seen hitherto, with reference to this subject,
invalidate the supposition of the origin being forestal; all that they
{282} appear to me to prove is, that the saying is of long standing.
Public-domain text, read in full here on John Shaqi.
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