Notes and Queries, Number 196, July 30, 1853: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.Various
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Notes and Queries, Number 196, July 30, 1853: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.
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Questions and answers -- Periodicals
_Arms of the See of York_ (Vol. viii., p. 34.).--I was about to send a note
to "N. & Q.," pointing out that Mr. Knight, in his heraldic illustrations
to 2 _Hen. IV._, in his _Pictorial Edition of Shakspeare_, has given the
modern bearings of the see of York to Archbishop Scroope, instead of those
which belonged to that date, when I observed a Query from TEE BEE, asking
the date and origin of the _change_ of arms which took place. I am sorry
that I am unable to give any authority for my statement, but I believe it
to be not the less true, that the change in question took place when
Cardinal Wolsey came to the see. Nor can I give any farther reason for that
change than the notorious jealousy of the Cardinal towards the superior
rank of the Archbishop of Canterbury. Up to this period the arms of the two
sees were precisely the same, though TEE BEE gives the number of crosses
"patee fitchee" on the pall for difference; I should be glad to know
whether there is good authority for this statement. The present arms of the
see evidently have reference to the dedication of the ancient cathedral
church to St. Peter.
H. C. K.
---- Rectory, Hereford.
_"Up, Guards, and at 'em!"_ (Vol. v., p. 426.).--These oft-quoted words
have already engaged the attention of the readers of "N. & Q." Your
frequent correspondent C. (Vol. v., p. 426.) is of opinion that the Duke
_did_ make use of these, or equivalent, words. The following extract I have
copied from an article in the June number of _Bentley's Miscellany_. It
will be found at p. 700. as a foot-note to a clever article, one of a
series, entitled "Random Recollections of Campaigns under the Duke of
Wellington," written by an officer of the second brigade of Guards.
"The expression attributed to the Duke of 'Up, guards, and at them
again!' I have good reason for _knowing_ was never made use of by him.
He was not even _with_ the brigade of Guards in question at the _time_
they rose from their recumbent position to attack the French column in
their front, and therefore could not well have thus addressed them. I
never heard this story till long after, on my return to England, when
it was related by a lady at a dinner-table; probably it was the
invention of some goodly Botherby. I remember denying my belief at the
time, and my view has since been sufficiently confirmed. Besides, the
words bear no internal evidence of the style either of thought or even
expression of him to whom they were attributed."
The invention of the goodly Botherby has prospered!
CUTHBERT BEDE, B. A.
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