Notes and Queries, Number 197, August 6, 1853: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc. — John Shaqi
Notes and Queries, Number 197, August 6, 1853: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.Various
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Notes and Queries, Number 197, August 6, 1853: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.
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I would remark on the explanation given by Rudder, that the _Iglea_ of
Asser is supposed by Camden, Gibson, Gough, and Sir Richard Colt Hoare to
be _Clayhill_, eastward of Warminster; and _Ethandun_ to be _Edington_,
about three miles eastward of Westbury, both in Wilts.
Asser says that, "in the same year," the year of the battle, "the army of
the pagans, departing from Chippenham, as had been promised, went to
_Cirencester_, where they remained one year."
On the signal defeat of Guthrum, he gave hostages to Alfred; and it is
probable that, if any treaty was made between them, it was made immediately
after the battle; and not that Alfred came from his fortress of
_AEthelingay_ to meet Guthrum at Cirencester, where his army lay after
leaving Chippenham.
If the treaty was made soon after the battle, it might have been at
Alfred's Hall near Cirencester, especially if _Hampton_ (Minchinhampton in
Gloucestershire), which is only six miles from Oakley Wood, be the real
site of the great and important battle, as was, a few years since, very
plausibly argued by Mr. John Marks Moffatt, in a paper inserted, with the
signature "J. M. M.," in Brayley's _Graphic and Historical Illustrator_, p.
106. _et seq._, 1834.
The mention of Rudder's History brings to my mind an inscription over the
door of Westbury Court, which I noticed when a boy at school, in the
village of Westbury in this county. This mansion was taken down during the
minority of Maynard Colchester, Esq., the present owner of the estate.
Rudder, in his account of that parish, has preserved the inscription--
"D.
O. M.
N. M. M. H. E. P. N. C."
He reads the first three letters "Deo Optimo Maximo," and says the
subsequent line contains the initials of the following hexameter:
"Nunc mea, mox hujus, et postea nescio cujus,"
{130} alluding to the successive descent of property from one generation to
another.
Perhaps one of your readers may be enabled to tell me whether the above
line be original, or copied, and from whom.
P. H. FISHER.
Stroud.
The agreement referred to is no other than the famous treaty of peace
between Alfred and Guthrun, whose name, by the substitution of an initial
"L." for a "G.," among various other inaccuracies for which your
correspondent is perhaps not responsible, has been disguised under the form
of "Lvthrvnvs." The inscription itself forms the commencement of the
treaty, which is stated, in Turner's _Anglo-Saxons_, book iv. ch. v., to be
still extant. It is translated as follows, in Lambard's [Greek:
Archaionomia], p. 36.:--
"Foedus quod Aluredus & Gythrunus reges ex sapientum Anglorum, atque
eorum omnium qui orientalem incolebant Angliam consulto ferierunt, in
quod praeterea singuli non solum de se ipsis, verum etiam de natis suis,
ac nondum in lucem editis (quotquot saltem misericordiae divinae aut
regiae velint esse participes), jurarunt.
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