Notes and Queries, Number 202, September 10, 1853: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Geneologists, etc. — John Shaqi
Notes and Queries, Number 202, September 10, 1853: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Geneologists, etc.Various
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Notes and Queries, Number 202, September 10, 1853: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Geneologists, etc.
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The mischief that arises from apparently the most trifling inaccuracy
in a statement of fact is scarcely to be estimated. A mistake is
repeated, multiplied, and perpetuated often to an extent that no after
rectification can thoroughly efface. Blunders even become sacred by
antiquity; and the attempt to correct any misstatement, if it does not
entirely fail through the subsequent destruction of evidence that would
have contained the refutation, is frequently received with a coldness
and suspicion, and can seldom, with every aid from undoubted sources,
be brought to prevail against the more familiar and preconceived
impression. An illustration of this may be seen in the reference made
by your correspondent C. V. to the authority of Dugdale, as overriding
the result of later investigations relative to the issue respectively
of the fifth and seventh Lords Clifford of Westmoreland. The loose and
ill-advised assertion of Miss Strickland, intended as it clearly was to
insinuate a mean origin in Jane Seymour, and to lessen her pretension
to an exalted birth, has fortunately received a most complete and
signal disproof; but a question is now raised, which, if it can be
supported, will suit Miss Strickland's view quite as well as her own
inconclusive statement. I cannot but think that what she wished to say
is, as hinted in the suggestion of C. V., that the claim contended for
cannot be supported through the alleged marriage of a Wentworth with
the descendant of Elizabeth Percy, because Elizabeth, Lady Percy's only
daughter, Lady Elizabeth de Percy, who married John, Lord Clifford, is
by _some_ ancient heralds stated to have left no daughter. This would
have been an intelligible assertion, and not entirely inconsistent with
what may be gathered from peerages, and other works compiled solely upon
the authority of Dugdale; and it is indeed the very point of difficulty
contemplated by your learned correspondent C.V., who if I do not mistake
the signature, is himself an authority entitled to much respect.
Dugdale, Collins, and Nicolas make the intermarriage of Wentworth to have
taken place with a daughter of Roger, fifth Lord Clifford; and Dugdale
and Collins are silent as to any female issue of John, the seventh Lord.
Edmondson (_Baronagium Genealogicum_, vol. iv. p. 364.) adopts the same
conclusion; but no higher authority is cited by any one of the above
writers, upon which to found this statement. On the other hand, both
Collins and Edmondson, in the Wentworth pedigree, show the marriage
of Sir Philip Wentworth, of Nettlested, to have taken place with a
daughter of John, seventh Lord Clifford. Edmondson describes the daughter
as _Elizabeth_; but Collins more accurately calls her _Mary_. Banks
(_Baronage_, vol. ii. p. 90.) gives both statements with an asterisk,
implying a doubt as to which of the two is to be accepted.
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