Notes and Queries, Number 25, April 20, 1850Various
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Notes and Queries, Number 25, April 20, 1850
Various
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_Prince Madoc._--I was much gratified on reading "T.T.'s" note,
commenting on my observations respecting the Mandan language, as he
proves the existence of Celtic words amongst the American Indians.
Regarding "T.T.'s" doubts as to the Mandans being descended from the
followers of Madoc, I confess that my opinions on the point do not
differ very widely from his own. The circumstances attending Madoc's
emigration, in the paucity of its numbers and the entire separation from
the mother country, with the character of the Indians, would almost
ensure the ultimate destruction of the settlement, or the ultimate
absorption of its remains by those who might have had friendly relations
with the Welsh. In this most favourable view, the evidences of the
presence of the Welsh seven centuries since would be few indeed at the
present day. The most striking circumstance of this nature that I met
with in Mr. Catlin's work, is a description of what he calls a
"bull-boat," from its being covered with a bull's hide, which, in
construction and form, is perfectly identical with the Welsh "_cwrygl_."
Yet, strong as this resemblance is, it will have but little weight if
unsupported by other evidence. In conclusion, I would observe, that I
never supposed Prince Madoc to be the discover of America, but that his
voyage was induced by the knowledge that other lands existed in the
great ocean (_see_ Humboldt's _Examen critique_). The emblems found in
America, and said to be crosses, are obviously the _tau_ [cross symbol],
or symbol of life, and can have no connection with Christianity.
GOMER.
_Poghell_ (No. 12. p. 186.).--In Cornwall and Devon there are places
called Poughill or Poghill,--in _Domesday_, Pochelle; and in the
_Taxatio Ecclesiastica_, Pockehulle and Pogheheulle. The etymology of
the word, I take to be merely the addition (as is often found) of the
Anglo-Saxon _hill_, or _hull_, to the old Teutonic word Pock, or Pok, an
eruption or protrusion. In low Latin, Pogetum is colliculus. (See
Ducange.)
S.S.S.
_Swingeing Tureen_ (No. 19. p. 211., and No. 21. p. 340.).--How could
"SELEUCUS" "conclude" that Goldsmith's "Poor Beau Tibbs and Kitty his
Wife," should have had "a _silver_ tureen" of expensive construction? It
is evident that "Kitty's" husband, in the "Haunch of Venison," was the
Beau Tibbs of the "Citizen of the World." There can be no doubt that,
however the word be spelled, {407} the meaning is _swingeing_, "huge,
great," which I admit was generally, if not always, in those days
spelled swinging, as in Johnson--"_Swinging_, from _swinge, huge,
great_;" but which ought to be, as it is pronounced, _swingeing_.
_Tureen_ (pp. 246. 307. 340.).--"And instead of soup in a China
terrene." (Knox, Essay 57 _Works_. vol. ii. p. 572.)
S.S.S.
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