Notes and Queries, Number 37, July 13, 1850 — John Shaqi
Notes and Queries, Number 37, July 13, 1850Various
History
Notes and Queries, Number 37, July 13, 1850
Various
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_Ogden Family_ (Vol. ii., p. 73.).--Perhaps the representatives of the
late Thomas Ogden, Esq., and who was a private banker at Salisbury
previous to 1810 (presuming he was a member of the family mentioned by
your correspondent TWYFORD), might be able to furnish him with the
information he seeks.
J.R. FOX.
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Replies to Minor Queries.
_Porson's Imposition_ (Vol. i., p. 71.) is indeed, I believe, an
_imposition_. The last line quoted (and I suppose all the rest) can
hardly be Porson's, for Mr. Langton amused Johnson, Boswell, and a
dinner party at General Oglethorpe's, on the 14th of April, 1778, with
some macaronic Greek "by _Joshua Barnes_, in which are to be found such
comical Anglo-hellenisms as [Greek: klubboisin ebagchthae] they were
banged with clubs." Boswell's _Johnson_, last ed. p. 591.
C.
_The Three Dukes_ (Vol. ii., pp. 9, 46, 91.).--Andrew Marvel thus makes
mention of the outrage on the beadle in his letter to the Mayor of Hull,
Feb. 28, 1671 (_Works_, i. 195.):--
"On Saturday night last, or rather Sunday morning, at two
o'clock, some persons reported to be of great quality, together
with other gentlemen, set upon the watch and killed a poor
beadle, praying for his life upon his knees, with many wounds;
warrants are out for apprehending some of them, but they are
fled."
I am not aware of any contemporary authority for the names of the three
dukes; and a difficulty in the way of assigning them by conjecture is,
that in the poem they are called "three bastard dukes." Your
correspondent C. has rightly said (p. 46.) that none of Charles II.'s
bastard sons besides Monmouth would have been old enough in 1671 to be
actors in such a fray. Sir Walter Scott, in his notes on _Absalom and
Achitophel_, referring to the poem, gives the assault to Monmouth and
some of his brothers; but he did so, probably, without considering
dates, and on the strength of the words "three bastard dukes."
Mr. Lister, in the passage in his _Life of Clarendon_ referred to by Mr.
Cooper (p. 91.), gives no authority for his mention of Albemarle. I
should like to know if Mr. Wade has any other authority than Mr. Lister
for this statement in his useful compilation.
Were it certain that three dukes were engaged in this fray, and were we
not restricted to "bastards," I should say that Monmouth, Albemarle, and
Richmond (who married the beautiful Miss Stuart, and killed himself by
drinking) would probably be the three culprits. As regards Albemarle, he
might perhaps have been called bastard without immoderate use of
libeller's licence.
If three dukes did murder the beadle, it is strange that their names
have not been gibbeted in many of the diaries and letters which we have
of that period. And this is the more strange, as this assault took place
just after the attack on Sir John Coventry, which Monmouth instigated,
and which had created so much excitement.
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