Notes and Queries, Number 85, June 14, 1851: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc. — John Shaqi
Notes and Queries, Number 85, June 14, 1851: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.Various
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Notes and Queries, Number 85, June 14, 1851: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.
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Undoubtedly, in the third of these lines, "menes" seems to have a
perfectly good meaning in the sense of instrument, or _means_ to
destroy. But, in the last line, the same sense is not so obvious--"means
to destroy" must _necessarily_ be destructive, and Chaucer would never
be guilty of the unmeaning truism of repeating--"means which do no good
but ever annoy."
Moreover, I am not aware that the accent is ever thrown upon the silent
_e_ where the signification of "mene" is an instrument--
"She may be Godd[=e]s mene and Godd[=e]s whippe"--
but in the lines under discussion the last syllable in both cases is
accented, agreeing in that respect with the _Armorican sound_--"menez."
Let us now examine whether the Armorican _sense_ is capable of giving a
perfect meaning to _both_ lines? That sense is, a rocky ridge or
emerging summit. Let us substitute the word _rock[=e]s_ for _men[=e]z_,
and then try what meaning the passage receives.
"If, quoth Dorigene, ye love _mankind_ so well ----
---- ---- ----- how then may it be
That ye such _rock[=e]s_ make, _it_ to destroyen,
Which _rock[=e]s_ don no good but ever anoyen?"
Here the sense is perfect in both lines--a sense, too, that is in exact
keeping with Dorigene's previous complaint of THE USELESSNESS of these
rocks--
"That semen rather a foule confusion
Of werk, than any faire creation
Of swiche a parfit wis[=e] God and stable;
Why have ye wrought this work unreasonable?
For by this werk, north, south, ne west, ne est,
There n'is yfostred man, ne brid, ne best;
_It doth no good_, to my wit, _but anoyeth_."
I therefore propose the following as the true reading of the passage in
question: viz.,
---- "Ye had a great chertee
Toward mankind; but how then may it be
That ye swiche menez make, it to destroyen,
Which menez don no good, but ever anoyen?"
And if I have succeeded in making good this position we no longer stand
in need of a precedent for the same reading in the case of--"In menez
libra."
A. E. B.
Leeds, May 31. 1851.
P.S. I have been favoured, through the publisher of "NOTES AND QUERIES,"
with an obliging note from S.S.S. (2), communicating some authorities,
of which the most germane to this subject are--
1. From _Archæologia Britannica_ (Edward Lhuyd. Oxford, 1707): "Armoric,
_Men_, a stone; _menez_, a mountain."
2. From Walter's _Welsh Dictionary_: "Welsh, _Maen_, a stone; _maen
terfyn_, a boundary stone; _maen mawr_, a large stone."
FOLK TALK: "EYSELL", "CAPTIOUS."
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