Notes and Queries, Vol. V, Number 121, February 21, 1852: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.Various
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Notes and Queries, Vol. V, Number 121, February 21, 1852: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.
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"Next to the Garter itself, the most celebrated knightly
decoration of this class is the Collar of SS. introduced by King
Henry IV., apparently as a memorial of the success with which his
aspiring ambition had been crowned: this letter S, repeated either
in links of gold, or in gold embroidery, worked upon a fillet of
blue, is the initial of the word 'Souveraine,' Henry's motto,
which he bore while Earl of Derby, and which, as he afterwards
became sovereign, appeared auspicious."
I dare say this idea of Mr. Boutell's may have been very ably refuted,
by having pointed out the existence of the collar on a knight who is
known _for certain_ to have died prior to the reign of Henry IV.; but I
must say that I have seen nothing in the Numbers of the current year
which alters my opinion.
With reference to what MR. LEWIS EVANS says, at page 38., I beg to
remark that he only assumes their dates _from current report_, for the
dates are not on either of the tombs he mentions; and I think MR. EVANS
is not a great studier of monumental effigies, otherwise he would not
talk of a knight being dressed in "a coif de mailles and pointed
helmet." I assume he means "_a camail_ and pointed bascinet."
LLEWELLYN, at p. 81., makes mention of several, but of the only two upon
which he ventures to fix a date, prior to Henry IV., one is "commonly
ascribed," &c., and the other is "vulgarly called," &c., so that I place
no reliance upon the truth of his deductions. Edwardus de la Hale, whom
he mentions as No. 7., died, I think he will find, in 1431, and not
1421.
As regards the brass of Sir Thomas Peryent and lady, at Digswell, Herts,
I may mention that although he wears a collar, yet I do not think it
ought to be fixed as certain that it is that of the SS., for no letter,
or portion of a letter, remains to prove it, although the collar which
Lady Peryent wears is perfectly distinct.
I send you a list of a few more knights and ladies who wear this collar:
A.D.
1382. Sir Thomas Burton, at Little Casterton, Rutlandshire.
1407. Sir W. and Lady Bagot, at Baginton, Warwickshire.
1411. Sir John Drayton, at Dorchester, Oxfordshire.
1412. Sir Thomas Swynborne, at Little Horkesley, Essex.
1424. Lord and Lady Camoys, at Trotton, Sussex.
1430. Sir John Dyve, at St. Owens, Bromham, Beds.
1435. Lady Delamere (but not worn by her husband), at Hereford
Cathedral.
As regards the brass of Sir Thomas Burton, although the date affixed to
it is 1382, yet it is quite evident, from the style of armour worn by
him, and the execution of the brass itself, that it was not executed
till 1410, and that he died about that time, and his wife at the date
mentioned.
H. L.
To MR. FOSS'S list of effigies bearing the Collar of SS. allow me to add
the brass of Sir Thomas Peryent and his lady, at Digswell, Herts, both
of whom wear this collar. Sir Thomas was a squire at arms to Henry IV.,
and died A.D. 1415.
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