Notes and Queries, Vol. V, Number 125, March 20, 1852: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc. — John Shaqi
Notes and Queries, Vol. V, Number 125, March 20, 1852: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.Various
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Notes and Queries, Vol. V, Number 125, March 20, 1852: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.
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Questions and answers -- Periodicals
_Birmingham Antiquities._--I wish to put on record in your journal a
fact concerning the antiquities of Birmingham. There is a street in this
borough, called Camden Street, which after crossing Worstone Lane,
acquires the name of Lower Camden Street. On the right-hand side of
Lower Camden Street (as you go from Camden Street), is some pasture
ground, bounded on one side by a stream called Chub-brook, which
formerly flowed into the old Hockley Pool. This pasture ground shows the
evident traces of a moat, and the foundations of several walls of a
large building. I apprehend this is the spot referred to in Hutton's
_History of Birmingham_, p. 254., fourth edition:
"The lord Clinton and his lady seem to have occupied the
Manor-house, and Sir Thomas (de Birmingham), unwilling to quit the
place of his affections and of his nativity, erected a castle for
himself at Worstone; where, though the building is totally gone,
the vestiges of its liquid security are yet complete."
As the field will probably be built on in a short time, I wish to
identify the spot referred to by Hutton.
C. M. I.
_Buchanan and Voltaire._--Voltaire has obtained credit for a very smart
epigram, and one which the _Edinburgh Review_ (vol. xxi. p. 271.) calls
"one of his happiest repartees." It was, however, stolen by him, either
designedly or unwittingly, from the celebrated Buchanan. Here are the
two versions, and the point will be observed to be the same in both:
"An Englishman visiting Voltaire in his retreat at Ferney,
happened to mention Haller, in whose praise the philosopher
enlarged with great warmth. The other observed that this was very
handsome on the part of M. de Voltaire, as Haller was by no means
so liberal to M. de Voltaire. 'Alas!' said the patriarch, 'I dare
say we are both of us very much mistaken!'"
Is not this the same as Buchanan's epigram (_Ep._, lib. 1. ed. Wets.)?
"IN ZOILUM.
"Frustra ego te laudo, frustra me, Zoile, lædas
Nemo mihi credit, Zoile nemo tibi."
PHILOBIBLION.
_Indignities on the Bodies of Suicides._--We are all aware of the
popular repugnance to permitting the bodies of suicides to be interred
within the "consecrated" or "hallowed" precincts of a churchyard. Burial
at cross-roads was the usual mode. In many parts of Scotland such
burials had to take place under cloud of night, to avoid the
interference of the rabble. But it would appear from the extract given
below, that public indignities were inflicted upon such corpses, to
testify public detestation of this crime. The extract is taken from the
_Diarey of Robert Birrel_, Burges of Edinburghe:
"1598, Feb. 20. The 20 day of Februar, Thomas Dobie drounit
himself in the Quarrel holes besyde the Abbay, and upone the
morne, he wes harlit throw the toune backward, and therafter
hangit on the gallows."
Perhaps some correspondent of "N. & Q." may be able to point out similar
instances of such a revolting procedure.
Public-domain text, read in full here on John Shaqi.
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