In his booke _De octo Dulcitij questionibus_, the 6. question thereof, he vttereth all this in as many words, & in his booke _De cura pro mortuis gerenda_, he writeth that some are sent, from the deade to the liuing: as on the other side, =Paule= was rapt vp from the liuing vnto Paradice: hée addeth there the example of =Samuel= being dead, which did foreshewe to =Saule=, things, that afterwardes should come to passe. He saith further, that this place may otherwise be vnderstanded, and that certaine faithful men haue bene of this iudgement, that it was not =Samuel=, but that some spirit fit for such wicked practises, had taken vpon him his shape and similitude. And in other places, as we will shew hereafter, he affirmeth, that there is a figure conteined in those wordes, because the name of the thing is giuen vnto the Image that dooth but represent the same: and that it was not =Samuel= that appeared, but some diuellish spirit. [Sidenote: The Popes decrees.] Other Fathers of the Churche haue written nothing particularly of this storie, so far as I know, but in certaine places of their workes, they teache generally that good spirites are not pulled backe into the earth by Magicall Art. Of =Iustine= and =Gregorie= I will speake anone. In the very Papall decrées, 26. question 5. chapter, _Nec mirum_, it is written that it was not =Samuel=, but rather some wicked spirite that appeared to =Saule=: And that it were a great offence that a man should beléeue the plaine words of the storie without some farther meaning, for how saith he could it come to passe, that a man from his byrth holie and iust in conuersation of life, should by Art Magicke be pulled out of his place? And if he were not so drawne against his will, then he must néedes agrée thereto: both whiche are like absurde, to bee imagined of a iust man. This is the Diuels legerdimaine, to make shewe, as though he had power ouer good men, thereby the rather to deceiue many. He there farther addeth, that the Historiographers doo set foorth both =Saules= minde, and =Samuels= state, and also those things which were sayd and séene, omitting this, whether they were true or false. And other words followe, whiche who so list to sée more of that matter, may there reade. [Sidenote: Lyra.] But here =Nicolas Lyras= iudgement (which in his Commentaries on the bookes of the Kings, mainteineth the contrary opinion) should bee little weighed and regarded of vs. Where he noteth, that the place by vs euen now alleaged, is not written according to the censure of the Church, though it be found in the Popes lawe, for otherwise saith he, they which ensued in latter times, wold not haue written contrary to yͤ same, for many of those things concerning which men haue written otherwise in latter times, were neuerthelesse set foorth to the world, to be beleeued, as the very expresse and sound iudgement of the whole Christian Church, because they were put in the Popes booke of =Decretalls=. CHAP. VIII.