Miss KROEGER: I have been teaching in the library school according to A. L. A. measurements, yet it has always seemed to me somewhat absurd. None of the publishers have adopted it; I suppose the newer libraries have. The replies received to the questions sent to the various libraries last June, except for the newer libraries, indicate that the majority are using the fold symbol, and they would like to know why, if the letter symbol is such a good thing, the publishers are still marking their books 8vo, 12mo and 4to. The fold symbol means more to the mass of the people than do the letters O or D. Mr. BOWKER: If I remember correctly the London _Bookseller_ is giving the exact size and measurement now. Mr. HARRIS: Many literary and critical journals give the size of all books recorded in inches. Mr. BOWKER: The Publishing Board is extremely interested in getting the feeling of those here on the question. I want to suggest that when it comes to the rising vote or show of hands, we take a somewhat complicated vote: those who are in favor of the present A. L. A. letter; those in favor of returning to the fold (I mean not in the usual sense); those in favor of exact measurement in centimeters; those in favor of a combination of letter symbol and centimeter; and those in favor of the fold symbol and centimeter. The board wants all the information it can get. CHAIRMAN: I will ask Mr. Bowker to state the first proposition. Mr. BOWKER: Those in favor of the letter symbol, the present A. L. A. method, please rise. Twenty-four rose. Mr. BOWKER: Those in favor of returning to the fold symbol, the 8vo, 12mo and 4to please rise. Ten rose. Mr. BOWKER: Those who prefer a designation of actual measurement, please rise--with the understanding that those voting for this will then vote their preference as to either inches or centimeters. Seventeen rose. CHAIRMAN: Your next proposition, Mr. Bowker. Mr. BOWKER: Those who would prefer centimeters if exact measurement should be adopted, please rise. Thirty-two rose. Mr. BOWKER: Now those who would prefer inches if an exact measurement were adopted. Three rose. CHAIRMAN: As many as are in favor of the exact measurement coupled with the A. L. A. symbol, in case there is to be a combination--letter and exact size--please rise. Thirty-two rose. CHAIRMAN: Now those who would prefer the combination of exact size with figure symbol. Sixteen rose. Mr. JOSEPHSON: We might have another vote on whether the size should mean letterpress or book. CHAIRMAN: Before this is done I want to call attention to the effect of binding after cataloging. If this scheme is going to take in foreign books, and you are going to get cards promptly, a large share of the books will be cataloged before they are bound. If a good binder does his work conscientiously and as it should be done, if you give the page you will have a more satisfactory measurement.