A. I did not ask them anything about it. They might have had an idea of striking, but I don't think the time was set. That being the morning that the double-headers was to go out, they picked on that morning very suddenly. Q. When was that order first promulgated or known to the men? A. I don't remember the date. I think it must have been a few days before that, but I can't say how many. Q. Had you heard anything said by the men about the order prior to that morning? A. No. Whatever they did do in the matter, they kept among themselves. Q. Were you on the ground during the day of Friday? A. Yes. Q. Relate to us what occurred. Had double-headers been run before that day on the road? A. Yes; the Union and National lines were double-headers, and our coal trains were double-headers. Some trains, such as coal trains between Derry--they were running them double for a number of years. Q. Had you run through freight trains as double-headers before Thursday? A. Yes; the Union and National lines. Q. That morning, the order to run double-headers on all freight trains went into effect? A. Yes. Q. That required the discharge of a number of men, did it not? A. I don't know whether they intended to discharge them or suspend them temporarily. Q. Were any of those men who were suspended or not retained in the employ of the company among that crowd of twenty that you spoke of? A. Not that I remember of seeing. Q. That crowd of twenty was composed of men retained in the employ of the company? A. Principally, but there might have been some others scattered among them. Q. How are those men paid--the brakemen and conductors--by the hour, or the day, or the month? A. They are paid by the day. By Mr. Larrabee: Q. What do you mean by the day? A. In the yard a day of twelve hours constitutes a day--eleven hours--they get paid extra for the meal hour. By Senator Yutzy: Q. And over hours? A. In the yard. I simply sent a message again, telling them to await at Rochester, and to send an escort of men down the road to receive me. Q. To whom did you direct it? A. To Colonel Carpenter, at Rochester. I expected he would be at Rochester. He was the commanding officer of the troops. When I got to Rochester, I went up and found he had not arrived--that the division had not arrived. I immediately telegraphed for it to move immediately down. I found it was at Greenville, and I gave the direction again to the officer in charge, not specifying any person in particular. In about an hour, after several attempts to get messages or several attempts to get answers, I went again for an answer, and after the instrument fluttering for half a minute, and all communication being suspended for half an hour, I got a message saying that the troops were at dinner, and would move immediately after dinner. Q. What time was that?